Thanks Marty.

Richard H.

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 6:56:39 AM UTC-5, wa2yyx wrote:
>
> Hi Jeannie, Beth, Richard as well as everyone on this site,
>
> I have a friend (not had a friend, and still have this friend) who had CML 
> a little while after I had my transplant. At the time there were no TKI's 
> but there were only two things available. One was a bone marrow transplant 
> which was in it's infancy at the time and the other was Alpha interferon 
> but on an early study basis which actually was a blind study. Depending on 
> if those in this study would be receiving this Alpha Interferon or a 
> placebo.
>
> Even before my friend I had to chose the Interferon or the placebo in this 
> blind study. I spoke with a lot of oncologists about what to do. However 
> there were no concise answers because on one hand there was something that 
> was still in a blind study and who would know if that would even be given 
> to this patient or would the BMT be the way to go?
>
> However, since there were no matching donors, but one, his brother who 
> refused, and I could never understand that, but since there were no other 
> choices he had no other choice but to try that blind study. Well he was 
> lucky enough to be accepted. And I have to tell you that he really suffered 
> some really bad side effects for years afterwards. 
>
> Eventually they were unable to detect any more CML, but he still refused 
> to go off of the Alpha Interferon and I suppose this was a crutch in his 
> life so he still remained on it for many years. So I guess that he finally 
> decided to go off of it. Once that happened his life took a dramatic turn. 
> No more side effects and no more CML, and he is still alive and doing 
> remarkably well today. 
>
> As far as me, well my only choice was the BMT because of two reasons. 
> Since my white blood counts were at the time over 486,000 and doubtful that 
> I would survive, but basically the same thing with the BMT but at least I 
> had my sister as a donor who just happened to be a perfect HLA match. So I 
> tried the BMT, and it worked.
>
> But yet there is still more to this story and some of you might remember 
> Zavie Miller and all three of us used to get together, and called ourselves 
> The Three Musketeers. This was well after Zavie got to know Dr. Druker and 
> he was started on STI-571 which when approved by the FDA turned into 
> Gleevec. 
>
> So after that we all turned into The Three Musketeers. All of this is 
> ancient   history but my point is that whether to go off or continue on the 
> TKI's because you may be actually "cured" of CML but you may still hold the 
> touch of the crutch. So you see that there are different strokes for 
> different people.
>
> Fortunately I don't have to make the choice because I already did and 
> believe me I really did suffer, but in the end it was worth it.
>
> Now knowing what I would do if my circumstances were different I think 
> that I would be off these TKI's and live my life, and if something happens 
> then you will have to deal with it, and you will. Remember a crutch is a 
> terrible thing to have.
>
> I spend a lot of time trying to help, and your all very special people to 
> me as I am to you.
>
> Those are my words of wisdom and please never forget what 18's stands for. 
> It is life yours and mine!
>
> 18's
>
> Marty  
>
>
> i 
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Richard H <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Just a quick glimpse about a med break.  The end of March when I went to 
>> the hospital with Vertigo, The short break I had on medicine did wonders 
>> for me.  Found some I shouldn't have been taking, stopped some all 
>> together.  I have felt so much better that I would do it again under total 
>> control.  Worried? Yes, but I realized afterwards it should have been done 
>> earlier.
>>
>> Richard H.  
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 4:27:30 PM UTC-5, Beth wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> HI Jeannie and all, ...I am due for BCR abl testing so should get it in 
>>> the next two weeks, results two weeks later...so I will update when I know 
>>> more...Had a consult today at the Block Center here in Illinois.People tend 
>>> to love him or hate him... I really like him. He thinks all my issues are 
>>> sprycel related. Thinks I should go off everything and have drug holiday to 
>>> give my autoimmune system a rest....steroids briefly to try and lower cpk 
>>> so I can move better without such a severe boomerang effect.  Back issues 
>>> are no worse. That's good news from my end....since there have been several 
>>> of my fellow warriors here who have lost there remissions spontaneously 
>>> after years of successful treatment with their TKI's.  I am scared to go 
>>> off, unless I have to ...ie. like I did for past surgeries....however, I am 
>>> thinking about it...perhaps I am just too toxic, and time off would help me 
>>> to rebuild and repair, and tolerate better the TKI"s when I re-uptake in 
>>> the future......so I am sitting with this decision..Not sure what I am 
>>> going to do...except pray, and listen to other's words of wisdom....I know 
>>> if I ask Dr. Druker, he would be fine with my taking a drug holiday..but I 
>>> emailed anyway......thoughts from my friends here????
>>>
>>>
>>> Love and 18;s, Beth
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2015 12:59 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>>
>>> Hi Beth and how are you?? 
>>> Would love to have an update on all.  Thanks!! ❤️❤️
>>>
>>> My Motto: Faith and Pills 
>>> Jeanie \uD83D\uDC1F\uD83D\uDC1F18,s  
>>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, bkbarney via CMLHope <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Richard, 
>>> Sounds like good news all the way around. Hope your counts continue to 
>>> hold well and the November visit to the onc is a positive one! Your wife is 
>>> healing well..slow and steady. Thanks for sharing the good news....Keeping 
>>> you both in my thoughts and prayers. Beth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope <[email protected]>
>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2015 9:26 am
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Test Day
>>>
>>> Hi Richard and happy you are better.  I hope your wife will be home 
>>> soon. 
>>> Prayers always. 
>>>
>>> My Motto: Faith and Pills 
>>> Jeanie \uD83D\uDC1F\uD83D\uDC1F18,s  
>>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 12:01 AM, Richard H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> All is good at this house.  Saw Kidney Dr. and my tests have improved 
>>> the last 3 times.  Took my CBC and I am keeping my Hem. is holding at 10.  
>>> I hope it stays there until the end of Nov. when I visit my ONC.  
>>>
>>> My wife is improving, and will see the Dr. Oct. 21st to see if she can 
>>> start putting weight on the right side.  Shoulder seems to be healing 
>>> nicely.  She has the healing knot on the shoulder and is feeding herself 
>>> with her right hand and is raising the upper arm to almost shoulder height 
>>> without pain.  We are hoping she can come home in Nov. when she can get out 
>>> of the wheel chair and up and down without help.  Due to heart surgery and 
>>> a pacemaker all I can due is call for help if she has a problem.
>>>
>>> 18's
>>>
>>> Richard H. 
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