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Today's Topics:
1. CMS co-mingled data issue (tonyl/pillarsoftware)
2. Re: CMS co-mingled data issue (Charles Reitzel)
3. Re: FW: [cms-list] pub/london/cms (Tom Weiss)
4. Re: Divine? (John Downs)
5. RE: Divine? (Tony Nguyen)
6. RE: Divine? (Steve Drucker)
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Message: 1
From: "tonyl/pillarsoftware" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:28:54 -0500
Subject: [cms-list] CMS co-mingled data issue
Has anyone looked at IBuySpy?
It requires a separate database installation for each instance that is
running. EVEN on the same server each IBuySpy would require a
different DSN.
Something like Yahoo Groups is an example of co-mingled data.
I wonder how many CMSes/Portals support co-mingled data?
IMHO co-mingled data is great because you can manage schema and database
backups...and from an ISP view point it saves resources.
Opinions? Pro / Con for co-mingled data.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:52:51 -0500
To: "tonyl/pillarsoftware" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Charles Reitzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [cms-list] CMS co-mingled data issue
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In all likelihood, co-mingled data will cause many more problems than it
will solve. It will complicate data replication, Application availability
(think SLAs for each user group), backup/restore, access controls. The
list goes on. The only time co-mingling would represent an advantage is in
a static, unchanging environment. But it's been a while since these have
been seen in the wild...
take it easy,
Charles Reitzel
At 01:28 AM 2/17/2003 -0500, tonyl/pillarsoftware wrote:
>Has anyone looked at IBuySpy?
>
>It requires a separate database installation for each instance that is
>running. EVEN on the same server each IBuySpy would require a different
DSN.
>
>Something like Yahoo Groups is an example of co-mingled data.
>
>I wonder how many CMSes/Portals support co-mingled data?
>
>IMHO co-mingled data is great because you can manage schema and database
>backups...and from an ISP view point it saves resources.
>
>Opinions? Pro / Con for co-mingled data.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:23:32 +0000
From: Tom Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FW: [cms-list] pub/london/cms
>
>
>Reminder for Wednesday night (the 19th).
>
See you then...
t.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 29 January 2003 20:58
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [cms-list] pub/london/cms
>
>
>Due to considerable demand, the pub/london/cms sessions will resume
>after an extended Christmas break on Wednesday 20th February in the
>Wheatsheaf pub in Stoney Street.
>
>You can get a map and directions at:
>http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/show.shtml/691/
>
>You will be able to recognise the motley CMS crew from my photo here:
>http://www.clarkweiss.com/images/tom%20web.gif
>
>I will be there from about 6:30pm - see you there!
>
>t.
>
>P.S. Extended list rules apply (e.g. sales pitches allowed when combined
>with pitchers of beer)
>
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>more signal, less noise.
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:32:04 -0800 (PST)
From: John Downs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [cms-list] Divine?
To: Todd Warfel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
kwasetis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Drucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How about Vignette or Interwoven buying them for the customer base and
maintenance contracts?
--- Todd Warfel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe Oracle...
>
> On 2/15/03 4:03 PM, "John Downs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Could be. But the obvious buyers already have either bought solutions or
> > developed their own such
> > as MS, IBM, Filenet and Documentum. Maybe someone in the ERP space due
to
> > divine's
> > interoperability. But most ERP say they do this anyway. Your guess is
good as
> > mine. Should be
> > interesting to watch.
> >
> > Cheers John
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Todd R. Warfel
>
> _//message first [method second]
> .--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.
> _//user experience architect
> Information architecture
> Interaction design
> Usability analysis
> [P] (607) 339-9640
> [E] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> In theory, theory and practice are the same,
> but in practice, they're not -- anonymous
>
>
> --
> http://cms-list.org/
> more signal, less noise.
>
>
>
>
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Strategic Clarity, Inc.
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Message: 5
From: Tony Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'John Downs ' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [cms-list] Divine?
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:48:53 -0600
I don't think Interwoven has the money. But Vignette has $300 millions in
the bank...
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From: John Downs
To: Todd Warfel; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kwasetis; Steve Drucker;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2/17/2003 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [cms-list] Divine?
How about Vignette or Interwoven buying them for the customer base and
maintenance contracts?
--- Todd Warfel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe Oracle...
>
> On 2/15/03 4:03 PM, "John Downs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Could be. But the obvious buyers already have either bought
solutions or
> > developed their own such
> > as MS, IBM, Filenet and Documentum. Maybe someone in the ERP space
due to
> > divine's
> > interoperability. But most ERP say they do this anyway. Your guess
is good as
> > mine. Should be
> > interesting to watch.
> >
> > Cheers John
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Todd R. Warfel
>
> _//message first [method second]
> .--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.
> _//user experience architect
> Information architecture
> Interaction design
> Usability analysis
> [P] (607) 339-9640
> [E] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [w] http://www.messagefirst.com
> .--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.
>
> In theory, theory and practice are the same,
> but in practice, they're not -- anonymous
>
>
> --
> http://cms-list.org/
> more signal, less noise.
>
>
>
>
=====
John Downs
Strategic Clarity, Inc.
303-748-5851
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://cms-list.org/
more signal, less noise.
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Message: 6
From: Steve Drucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [cms-list] Divine?
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:27:51 -0500
Well, according to Yahoo (http://biz.yahoo.com/fin/l/v/vign.html), Vignette
may have around 270 mil in assets, but they've also got a solid burn rate
too...about 20 mil per quarter. Ouch!
Regards,
Steve Drucker
CEO
Fig Leaf Software
www.figleaf.com
1-877-FIG-LEAF
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:49 PM
To: 'John Downs '
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [cms-list] Divine?
I don't think Interwoven has the money. But Vignette has $300 millions in
the bank...
-----Original Message-----
From: John Downs
To: Todd Warfel; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kwasetis; Steve Drucker;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2/17/2003 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [cms-list] Divine?
How about Vignette or Interwoven buying them for the customer base and
maintenance contracts?
--- Todd Warfel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe Oracle...
>
> On 2/15/03 4:03 PM, "John Downs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Could be. But the obvious buyers already have either bought
solutions or
> > developed their own such
> > as MS, IBM, Filenet and Documentum. Maybe someone in the ERP space
due to
> > divine's
> > interoperability. But most ERP say they do this anyway. Your guess
is good as
> > mine. Should be
> > interesting to watch.
> >
> > Cheers John
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Todd R. Warfel
>
> _//message first [method second]
> .--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.
> _//user experience architect
> Information architecture
> Interaction design
> Usability analysis
> [P] (607) 339-9640
> [E] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [w] http://www.messagefirst.com
> .--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.==.--.
>
> In theory, theory and practice are the same,
> but in practice, they're not -- anonymous
>
>
> --
> http://cms-list.org/
> more signal, less noise.
>
>
>
>
=====
John Downs
Strategic Clarity, Inc.
303-748-5851
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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