Edi Weitz wrote

> <http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=upt3lbskt.fsf%40agharta.de&output=gplain

Thanks for the info, which answers my first question. 

Maybe I'm just too dumb to see it, but is there
a systematic way to access these older messages?
Maybe there are some others which could spare me
asking questions again, but I can't access the reference
above when I enter via

http://news.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.cmucl.devel/

nor could I find a way how google could lead me to a full list
of messages. 


 Gerhard


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