Its funny,  Karen, my wife, just said she is afraid to go to the boat show 
because she'll be attracted to all the shiny stuff!  Hot cold running 
everything!  "Honey, lets get that boat!!" You know what, the chain is 
essentially too short as well. I had the 18" chain and the chain to cable 
coupler was just too close to the sprocket. I also, believe that the whole 
system was out of alignment. I believe the side of the chain dropping down the 
starboard side was higher than that on the port. There is tape covering the 
coupler and it is all chewed up on one side but not the other.  leads me to 
believe it was an installation error.I ordered a 24" chain for added distance 
from the sprocket on both sides and I'll be taking added steps to ensure a 
centered chain. All the work down there wreaks of impatience so the 
mis-alignment makes sense, the inadequate stops make sense, the stripped 
screw-heads make sense...wadda wadda wadda I'll also be redesigning the stops. 
Danny

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Joel Aronson <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire failure + wife issues
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:58:52 -0400


Stay away from the Catalina's!

Joel Aronson 
On Sep 12, 2012, at 8:39 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
  Yea, I think she is more pissed off than anything.&#65533; "we wasted the 
whole summer and it still needs work!"&#65533; I told I didn't mind working on 
the boat but, she does!&#65533; LOL&#65533;Okay.I got the wire and chain back 
on the sprocket with not too much effort and the things moved nicely, as they 
are supposed to.&#65533; Took most of my time getting the 4th compass bolt 
out...I'll be replacing them.I didn't like the looks of it all the chain wasn't 
bad but, dry and it looked old.&#65533; I got it off pretty easily and I'll get 
a new chain and wire assembly.The stops...not great...they were another hack 
job.&#65533; I'll be beefing them up this fall after she gets hauled.&#65533; 
I'll post some pics in the morning.&#65533; I'm not too sure how great they 
came out.I did take a swim and all looks fine down there.&#65533; One of my 
zincs has come loose.&#65533; I'm betting that is the cause of the 
vibration.&#65533; I'll have to dive again with an allen wrench and either 
tighten it up or remove it (I have two on there.&#65533;&#65533; One in front 
and one behind the strut).Hopefully I can get all my parts tomorrow and install 
on friday and I'll be able to sail this weekend.&#65533; it supposed to be 
pretty calm.&#65533; 8 to 10 knots and 1ft seas.&#65533;&#65533;The newport 
boat show is this weekend as well.&#65533; we'll probably be hitting that 
too.Danny&#65533;

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Martin DeYoung <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire failure + wife issues
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:21:11 +0000

 
Another spooking the wife at sea story:
&#65533;
Delivering a C&C 39 back from Hawaii in 1979, my wife&#65533;s first Pacific 
crossing, we experienced:
&#65533;
Refrigeration failure and loss of food (ended up rationing food for 2 weeks)
Galley fire (2 dry chemical ext. to put it out)
A4 engine failure (middle of taking a short cut through the NE Pac. High i.e. 
very light wind)
Water shortage (had 24 days of water took 29 to land in Seattle)
&#65533;
We did have some magical days and nights of gentle sailing while working our 
way out of the NE Pacific high.&#65533; All on board survived the trial and 
tribulations but comfort was sacrificed
&#65533;
My best sales job to date was convincing her to make another trip (Honolulu to 
San Francisco) in 1981.
&#65533;
How to regain her confidence in an older C&C for anything more than a light air 
day trip? Hell&#65533;if I know.&#65533; Failed that test myself.&#65533; 
I&#65533;m wired for adventure sailing, local or long distance.&#65533; 
She&#65533;s wired for comfort and social sailing/boating.
&#65533;
Best ideas I have come up with in over 30 years of working on the problem is to 
fly her to the destination while me and my salty friends sail the boat and 
experience all the good and less good of voyaging under sail.
&#65533;
Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43, hull #1
Seattle
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:52 AM
To: [email protected]
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
&#65533;
The stops on my boat work well and prevent exactly the kind of thing that 
happened to you.
As for your 
wife&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;..not sure 
I have a fix for that that doesn&#65533;t involve a lot of money.
If it makes you feel any better, my wife has over the years put up with&#65533; 
- sometimes with good humor and sometimes not &#65533;
A failed fuel pump that I fixed with an outboard squeeze bulb. She had to 
squeeze the whole way home or steer while I squeezed. SQUEEZE HARDER 
DON&#65533;T LET IT GO SOFT was yelled frequently to encourage maintenance of 
fuel pressure J
An engine that died on the last day of our cruise about 10 yards from the 
mooring. This then entailed putting the engine in the dinghy, dragging it up on 
the dock, and using a tree to hoist it into her car. Everything was going great 
until the A4- lacking a front oil seal &#65533; dumped a quart of oil in her 
car. This same cruise involved several days with a heat index around 108-110 
and 100% humidity at night. We tried watching a movie at night in the cockpit 
for more air and 1,000 moths landed on the TV.&#65533; And then the engine was 
in the shop and my basement for 2 months getting fixed.
A fuel fill hose that popped a leak and dumped several gallons of gas into the 
bilge.
A bilge pump that for some reason &#65533; after a decade of good service 
&#65533; decided to siphon INTO the boat and caused my wife to step into almost 
knee-deep water around 0200 when she got up to use the head.
More engine malfunctions than I can count until I finally gave the damn thing 
away and got another one. My wife actually accused me of LIKING these issues 
because one day I was dancing around yelling &#65533;I AM A GOD OF 
ENGINES&#65533; after a successful MacGyver fix of some ignition malfunction. 
&#65533;
Even brand new boats have all kinds of issues. Anyone who buys a used boat or 
airplane has a year or two of getting everything fixed and even then it is 
always an adventure. A lot of cash will get you a new boat, but it isn&#65533;t 
easy to fix the expectation that old boats (and airplanes and antique cars and 
1960s British motorcycles) will run like a Honda Civic.
&#65533;
Cruising- (cruzing) Verb. The act of doing boat repairs in exotic locations
&#65533;
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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