This is an interesting topic as there are many variables that may affect the
condition of the impeller. My Yanmar 3QM30 engine typically accumulates a
maximum of 100 hours of operation in a sailing season. On most daily
outings, the engine runs approximately 15 minutes at each end of the
excursion. I have an hour meter and keep track of oil changes and other
maintenance items with a reasonable degree of accuracy.  Major servicing of
filters, oil change, impeller check, etc. is done at winter layup so the
engine sits for 5-6 months with clean oil. I also make sure the cooling
system has been well flushed with fresh water before starting the
winterization process. The current impeller has seen 7 seasons of use and
will remain in place for next season.

 

The boat operates in relatively cold North Atlantic salt water which is
generally clean and results in little accumulation of weeds or anything else
in the raw water filter. The engine is raw water cooled and during the just
completed teardown and rebuild appeared to us to have little corrosion or
build up in the block and head. The cause of the excessive blow-by which
precipitated the rebuild remains undetermined, but could not be related to
insufficient cooling. The impeller, a crucial component, appears to suffer
little  annual wear and has never catastrophically failed. 

 

Perhaps warmer water, higher levels of silt or chemicals, or significantly
greater use may have a greater negative effect on and impeller.

 

I have had a number of outboard motors with varying experiences with
impellers, most of the negative ones were related to sand intake and salt
deposits that were not flushed out properly before storage. Outboards I have
owned in fresh water areas have run for years with no impeller problems.

 

As a last comforting thought: if the impeller fails and the engine cannot be
run, sails are a fine backup system.

 

Rich Knowles

INDIGO - LF38

Halifax, NS

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: October 19, 2012 10:27
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stus-List Miscellaneous -impeller

 

Spend a few bucks and change the impeller with each annual service, the few
dollars that it cost will save you grief & money in the end. A senior Yanmar
factory tech told me that after a year of two the rubber blades on the
impeller will "set" and will decrease in efficiency due to fatigue in the
rubber, the blades may not indicate cracks but you can bet they they have
lost some flexibility. The Yanmar guy is a good friend & was not trying to
me impellers, just offering good advice....

 

The choice is yours, but if you want go longer than 2 years you may want buy
a Sea Tow package...

 

Jack Fitzgerald

HONEY
C&C 39 TM

Savannah, GA

 

In a message dated 10/19/2012 9:16:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

I don't have the experience of Rich but I would also lean in that direction.
I've changed mine for the first time this summer after 3 years.  The
impeller looked in perfect condition (no cracks and blades were as flexible
as a new one).  I kept the old one as a spare and now feel confident that I
will only inspect the impeller every spring. 

 

I've been told by a mechanic that if the raw water circuit is winterized
using antifreeze (vs. drained), the impeller holds up very well.  Since our
impeller spends more than half the year in antifreeze, this might explain
the durability!

 

I also reasoned that since we sail on a lake with no commercial traffic and
never solo there is little risk in case I have to face an impeller break
down: I have a spare and tools on board, I know how to swap them.

 

Sébastien Lemieux
Merlot X - C&C 30 mk2 1987
Mooney Bay - Lake Champlain



 

On Oct 18, 2012, at 21:28, Rich Knowles wrote:





I check mine each season's end when I winterize. If it looks good, it goes
back in. I have installed one new one in 15 years and that includes several
runs of a few minutes each year without water. They are pretty durable. I
check for cracking.  

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2012-10-18, at 22:04, Martin DeYoung <[email protected]> wrote:

...how often do you guys change the impeller in the raw water 
pump?

I change Calypso's 4-108 raw water impeller at the start of each season then
put the lightly used old one in the spares box.  It is also my practice to
check the impeller prior to setting off on a longer trip where a sudden loss
of cooling might be inconvenient.

There has been a year or so where I did not change the impeller in the
spring and the impeller perform fine with no significant change in
appearance.

I change the impeller after each time I forget to open the raw water inlet
thru hull valve and allowed the engine to run without cooling water for more
than a few minutes.

Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle

-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert
Abbott
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Stus-List Miscellaneous

Because of excessive mussel growth on my prop and prop shaft the past 
several seasons, this past Spring I tried something new, namely applying 
"lanolin" to them....boat was hauled this week and I can report that the 
lanolin was not very effective.....there were approx. 3 dozen mussels 
attached to the prop and the prop shaft was covered as well.

On another note, applied Micron 66 antifouling paint to the boat this 
past Spring (have been using Micron CSC for over 12 
years).....absolutely no growth of any kind....and specifically no 
'slime' which is common with the CSC.....the bottom looks like it did 
when it was painted in the Spring and I only applied a very light coat 
of the '66' (actually diluted it approx. 10%)....it is incredible 
antifouling paint.....only regret is that it is not sold in Canada.

And, after 7 sailing seasons, I decided  to check the air filter on the 
Yanmar 2GMF.....took the cover off to discover there was no 'actual 
filter' in the metal casing...ooops!  There will be by next Spring.

Lastly, how often do you guys changedthe impeller in the raw water 
pump?  Not what the specs recommend but actually how often.....every 
year, 2 years, 5 years, 10 years?

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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