We were lucky. The storm surge hit at low rather than high tide sparing homes and boats. We came out Friday at our club. The water was high enough that it started to float some power boats off of their stands and blocking but stopped a few inches from catastrophe. Short beach homes had spray from waves over the roofs at noon today. All up river marinas on the Branford look to be unharmed. A surge at high tide as originally predicted would have certainly sent hundreds of boats and docks floating down the river.
John Maturo 203-494-6782 Ashe Baltic 39 On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:00, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Bounty sinking today (Steve Sharkey) > 2. Re: Bounty sinking today (Joel Aronson) > 3. Re: Bounty sinking today (OldSteveH) > 4. Re: Bounty sinking today (David Risch ) > 5. Re: Bounty sinking today (Bob Moriarty) > 6. Re: Bounty sinking today (D.Drake) > 7. Re: HMS Bounty Abandoned - 2 Crew Missing at Sea. (Bob Moriarty) > 8. Re: HMS Bounty Abandoned - 2 Crew Missing at Sea. (jtsails) > 9. Bounty sinking today (Tom B) > 10. HMS Bounty: A tall ship?s final hours in hurricane-ravaged > seas - The Washington Post (Peter Deppisch) > 11. Re: Bounty sinking today (Rick Brass) > 12. Re: Bounty sinking today (Rick Brass) > 13. (no subject) (dale sheffield) > 14. Re: Stus-Sandy and Mystic Seaport (Richard N. Bush) > 15. Re: Stus-Sandy and Mystic Seaport (Gary Russell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:06:23 -0400 > From: "Steve Sharkey" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > Message-ID: <A3F1785EFAF34BDD9BA0581A3E0F2A20@Familykitchen> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Interesting that this says that these are Sandy?s first victims. Here?s an > article talking about the 69 killed in the Caribbean. > http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/hurricane-sandy-leaves-destruction-wake/story?id=17588956#.UI8LHcXR67E > > From: Richard Davis > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 6:35 PM > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > > Bounty Sinks off Cape Hatteras > > > October 29, 2012 ? Atlantic Ocean > As the East Coast battens down the hatches in preparation for Hurricane > Sandy, the Category 1 hurricane may have claimed her first victims. The > captain and one crewmember from the tall ship Bounty, a replica of the > original HMS Bounty built in 1960 for the Marlon Brando film Mutiny on the > Bounty, are missing after the crew abandoned ship early this morning off > North Carolina's Outer Banks, just 160 miles from the center of Sandy. The > remaining 14 crewmembers were rescued by USCG helos this morning. > > > The last report from Bounty occurred just 20 minutes before the Captain > reported the ship was sinking. > ? 2012 SailWX > > > > Last night Captain Robin Walbridge called the owners of the ship to report > the ship had lost power and the crew were unable to keep up with the inflow > of water. At 4:30 a.m., he ordered the crew to abandon ship to two liferafts > and activated the ship's EPIRB. As Bounty was sinking in 40-knot winds and > 18-ft seas, three crewmembers reportedly didn't make it into the rafts. One > managed to swim to a raft, while the other two ? Capt. Walbridge and newest > crewmember Claudine Christian (reported to be a direct descendant of Fletcher > Christian) ? were swept away. Both are wearing survival suits, and the Coast > Guard is continuing to search today. Bounty has since sunk. > > > Raw video from the rescue shows the crewmembers wearing survival suits. > The two missing crewmembers were reportedly wearing such suits. They and > their families are in our thoughts. > ? 2012 USCG > > > > Though the 180-ft, three-masted square-rigger (technically a full-rigged > ship) was destined to be a film set, she was built in Lunenburg, Nova Scotia, > to the original HMS Bounty's drawings ? her length was doubled and tonnage > increased ? using traditional methods. She was also featured in two Pirates > of the Caribbeanfilms: Dead Man's Chest and At World's End. Currently owned > by HMS Bounty Organization LLC, the ship underwent a $3 million refit in '07, > and had just been in drydock for maintenance. Bounty left New London, > Connecticut, on October 25 bound for her winter home in St. Petersburg, > Florida. > > - latitude / ladonna > > > > Richard Davis > Skycatcher, C&C 38-3 > Channel Islands Harbor, Oxnard > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Wally Bryant <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I wonder if this link is of the rescue: > <http://www.weather.com/news/weather-hurricanes/sandy-top-five-20121028> > There's no commentary, but the folks are wearing full survival suits. > > You're right, if the owner of the boat forced them to put to sea on that > course in this weather, he should pay for the rescue, families of victims, > and then spend some time with the general prison population. > > > Richard Walter wrote: > > Because St. Petersburg, FL is (was!) a paid appearance. These vessels > operate on appearance fees. That said, this decision was negligence bordering > on criminal. If the missing crew members are lost, there will be jail time. > > > > -- > s/v Stella Blue > www.wbryant.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20121029/54f4d40e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:07:44 -0400 > From: Joel Aronson <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > Message-ID: <-4753839389210248530@unknownmsgid> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > One more crewmember was rescued. The captain is still missing. > > Joel > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Steve Sharkey <[email protected]> wrote: > > Interesting that this says that these are Sandy?s first victims. Here?s > an article talking about the 69 killed in the Caribbean. > http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/hurricane-sandy-leaves-destruction-wake/story?id=17588956#.UI8LHcXR67E > > *From:* Richard Davis <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, October 29, 2012 6:35 PM > *To:* [email protected] ; [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > > Bounty Sinks off Cape Hatteras > * > * > October 29, 2012 ? Atlantic Ocean > > As the East Coast battens down the hatches in preparation for Hurricane * > Sandy*, the Category 1 hurricane may have claimed her first victims. The > captain and one crewmember from the tall ship *Bounty*, a replica of the > original HMS *Bounty* built in 1960 for the Marlon Brando film *Mutiny on > the Bounty*, are missing after the crew abandoned ship early this morning > off North Carolina's Outer Banks, just 160 miles from the center of *Sandy*. > The remaining 14 crewmembers were rescued by USCG helos this morning. > > The last report from *Bounty* occurred just 20 minutes before the Captain > reported the ship was sinking. > ? 2012 SailWX > > Last night Captain Robin Walbridge called the owners of the ship to report > the ship had lost power and the crew were unable to keep up with the inflow > of water. At 4:30 a.m., he ordered the crew to abandon ship to two > liferafts and activated the ship's EPIRB. As *Bounty* was sinking in > 40-knot winds and 18-ft seas, three crewmembers reportedly didn't make it > into the rafts. One managed to swim to a raft, while the other two ? Capt. > Walbridge and newest crewmember Claudine Christian (reported to be a direct > descendant of Fletcher Christian) ? were swept away. Both are wearing > survival suits, and the Coast Guard is continuing to search today. > *Bounty*has since sunk. > > Raw video from the rescue shows the crewmembers wearing survival suits. The > two missing crewmembers were reportedly wearing such suits. They and their > families are in our thoughts. > ? 2012 USCG > > Though the 180-ft, three-masted square-rigger (technically a full-rigged > ship) was destined to be a film set, she was built in Lunenburg, Nova > Scotia, to the original HMS *Bounty*'s drawings ? her length was doubled > and tonnage increased ? using traditional methods. She was also featured in > two *Pirates of the Caribbean*films: *Dead Man's Chest *and* At World's End*. > Currently owned by HMS Bounty Organization LLC, the ship underwent a $3 > million refit in '07, and had just been in drydock for maintenance. > *Bounty*left New London, Connecticut, on October 25 bound for her > winter home in > St. Petersburg, Florida. > > *- latitude / ladonna* > > [image: Bookmark and > Share]<http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=250&pubid=ra-4e4aa65e5df23d35> > Richard Davis > Skycatcher, C&C 38-3 > Channel Islands Harbor, Oxnard > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Wally Bryant <[email protected]> wrote: > > I wonder if this link is of the rescue: < > http://www.weather.com/news/weather-hurricanes/sandy-top-five-20121028> > There's no commentary, but the folks are wearing full survival suits. > > You're right, if the owner of the boat forced them to put to sea on that > course in this weather, he should pay for the rescue, families of victims, > and then spend some time with the general prison population. > > > Richard Walter wrote: > > Because St. Petersburg, FL is (was!) a paid appearance. These vessels > operate on appearance fees. That said, this decision was negligence > bordering on criminal. If the missing crew members are lost, there will be > jail time. > > > > -- > s/v Stella Blue > www.wbryant.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20121029/5ac9cebe/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:27:21 -0400 > From: OldSteveH <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Paid appearance? When is that worth the risk of a sinking and lawsuits? > There's been lots of comments about this unwise decision but my thought is > for the crew, not just around the sinking and rescue but in going out there > in the first place. > > I sailed from Halifax to Bermuda in May with Derek Hatfield on his Open 60. > We were north of Bermuda at the same time as Tropical Storm Alberto (first > storm of the season) was coming up the US east coast. When we got word of > the storm everyones faces went gray. It was very somber on the boat for the > next few hours. How bad was it going to get? As it turned out we only got > max 35 knot winds as we were a few hundred miles from the storm but it makes > me think of the Bounty crew. Did they know what they were going out into? > Prob yes. And they went willingly? Apparently. Were the crew mis-informed? > Many questions and one has to feel for the crew and their families. It must > have been a terrible experience. > > BTW our strategy if things got bad was the same as Bounty's - go east. > > Cheers, > > > Steve Hood > S/V Diamond Girl > C&C 34 > Lions Head ON > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:28:14 -0700 (PDT) > From: Richard Walter <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Colin writes' "...[w]hen there's already a named storm on the map, why the > hell are you putting to see [sic] and heading right into it? > > Because St. Petersburg, FL is (was!) a paid appearance. These vessels > operate on appearance fees. That said, this decision was negligence > bordering on criminal. If the missing crew members are lost, there will be > jail time. > > Richard > > > > > --- On Mon, 10/29/12, Colin Kilgour <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Colin Kilgour <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, October 29, 2012, 11:27 AM > > The storm was already hurricane strength and heading their way BEFORE they > left New London. > > This is their Facebook post from Oct 25, the day they left. > > "Bounty has departed New London CT...Next Port of Call...St. Petersburg, > Florida. > > Bounty will be sailing due East out to sea before heading South to avoid > the brunt of Hurricane Sandy." > > I'm reluctant to question the captain on the boat, but I do have quite a bit > of bluewater experience in that part of the ocean.? When there's already a > named storm on the map, why the hell are you putting to see and heading > right into it? > > > Cheers, > Colin > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Chuck S <[email protected]> wrote: > > Can't believe a ship like Bounty would get caught in a hurricane, but > apparently she was reported today sinking and abandoned off Hatteras and > USCG rescued 14, two still missing? > > > http://www2.wnct.com/news/2012/oct/29/7/coast-guard-rescue-underway-hatteras > -ar-2734769/ > > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > New Gretna, NJ > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:46:45 +0000 > From: "David Risch " <[email protected]> > To: "Joel Aronson " <[email protected]>, "[email protected] " > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > My gut tells me the Captain went down with the ship...perhaps on purpose? > Given earler decision, results and heritage... > David F. Risch > (401) 419-4650 cell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joel Aronson <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:07:44 > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > > > One more crewmember was rescued. ?The captain is still missing. > > Joel > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Steve Sharkey <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > Interesting that this says that these are Sandy's first victims.? Here's an > article talking about the 69 killed in the Caribbean. > http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/hurricane-sandy-leaves-destruction-wake/story?id=17588956#.UI8LHcXR67E > > > > ? > > From: Richard Davis <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 6:35 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > ? > Bounty Sinks off Cape Hatteras > > > October 29, 2012 - Atlantic Ocean > > As the East Coast battens down the hatches in preparation for Hurricane > Sandy, the Category 1 hurricane may have claimed her first victims. The > captain and one crewmember from the tall ship Bounty, a replica of the > original HMS Bounty built in 1960 for the Marlon Brando film Mutiny on the > Bounty, are missing after the crew abandoned ship early this morning off > North Carolina's Outer Banks, just 160 miles from the center of Sandy. The > remaining 14 crewmembers were rescued by USCG helos this morning. > > > <http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/img_lectronic_432/2012-10-29_1050_bounty.jpg> > > The last report from Bounty occurred just 20 minutes before the Captain > reported the ship was sinking. > ? 2012 SailWX > > Last night Captain Robin Walbridge called the owners of the ship to report > the ship had lost power and the crew were unable to keep up with the inflow > of water. At 4:30 a.m., he ordered the crew to abandon ship to two liferafts > and activated the ship's EPIRB. As Bounty was sinking in 40-knot winds and > 18-ft seas, three crewmembers reportedly didn't make it into the rafts. One > managed to swim to a raft, while the other two - Capt. Walbridge and newest > crewmember Claudine Christian (reported to be a direct descendant of Fletcher > Christian) - were swept away. Both are wearing survival suits, and the Coast > Guard is continuing to search today. Bounty has since sunk. > > > <http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/img_lectronic_799orless/2012-10-29_9545_bounty2.jpg> > > Raw video from the rescue shows the crewmembers wearing survival suits. The > two missing crewmembers were reportedly wearing such suits. They and their > families are in our thoughts. > ? 2012 USCG > > Though the 180-ft, three-masted square-rigger (technically a full-rigged > ship) was destined to be a film set, she was built in Lunenburg, Nova Scotia, > to the original HMS Bounty's drawings - her length was doubled and tonnage > increased - using traditional methods. She was also featured in two Pirates > of the Caribbeanfilms: Dead Man's Chest and At World's End. Currently owned > by HMS Bounty Organization LLC, the ship underwent a $3 million refit in '07, > and had just been in drydock for maintenance. Bounty left New London, > Connecticut, on October 25 bound for her winter home in St. Petersburg, > Florida. > - latitude / ladonna > <http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=250&pubid=ra-4e4aa65e5df23d35> > Richard Davis > Skycatcher, C&C 38-3 > Channel Islands Harbor, Oxnard > ? > > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Wally Bryant <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > I wonder if this link is of the rescue: > <http://www.weather.com/news/weather-hurricanes/sandy-top-five-20121028> > There's no commentary, but the folks are wearing full survival suits. > > You're right, if the owner of the boat forced them to put to sea on that > course in this weather, he should pay for the rescue, families of victims, > and then spend some time with the general prison population. > > > Richard Walter wrote: > Because St. Petersburg, FL is (was!) a paid appearance. These vessels operate > on appearance fees. That said, this decision was negligence bordering on > criminal. If the missing crew members are lost, there will be jail time. > > > -- > s/v Stella Blue > www.wbryant.com <http://www.wbryant.com> > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > ? > > ---------------- > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:53:02 -0400 > From: Bob Moriarty <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > Message-ID: > <CAM7ccYLZH=D8qoR8D1W2y_8=7kytfapvsu5picpcgllc1tt...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > A couple of news stories report that the Captain was in a survival suit. > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:46 PM, David Risch <[email protected]> wrote: >> My gut tells me the Captain went down with the ship...perhaps on purpose? >> Given earler decision, results and heritage... > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:15:30 -0400 > From: "D.Drake" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Apparently Capt Wallbridge is one of the missing > On 29/10/2012 3:28 PM, Richard Walter wrote: >> Colin writes' "...[w]hen there's already a named storm on the map, why >> the hell are you putting to see [sic] and heading right into it? >> >> Because St. Petersburg, FL is (was!) a paid appearance. These vessels >> operate on appearance fees. That said, this decision was negligence >> bordering on criminal. If the missing crew members are lost, there >> will be jail time. >> >> Richard >> >> >> >> --- On *Mon, 10/29/12, Colin Kilgour /<[email protected]>/* wrote: >> >> >> From: Colin Kilgour <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Monday, October 29, 2012, 11:27 AM >> >> The storm was already hurricane strength and heading their way >> BEFORE they left New London. >> >> This is their Facebook post from Oct 25, the day they left. >> >> "Bounty has departed New London CT...Next Port of Call...St. >> Petersburg, Florida. >> Bounty will be sailing due East out to sea before heading South to >> avoid the brunt of Hurricane Sandy." >> >> I'm reluctant to question the captain on the boat, but I do have >> quite a bit of bluewater experience in that part of the ocean. >> When there's already a named storm on the map, why the hell are >> you putting to see and heading right into it? >> >> Cheers, >> Colin >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Chuck S <[email protected] >> </mc/[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Can't believe a ship like Bounty would get caught in a >> hurricane, but apparently she was reported today sinking and >> abandoned off Hatteras and USCG rescued 14, two still missing? >> >> >> http://www2.wnct.com/news/2012/oct/29/7/coast-guard-rescue-underway-hatteras-ar-2734769/ >> >> Chuck >> Resolute >> 1990 C&C 34R >> New Gretna, NJ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] </mc/[email protected]> >> >> >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] </mc/[email protected]> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] > > -- > D.Drake 73 Jensen Healey C&C 26 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20121029/bba073c1/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:22:06 -0400 > From: Bob Moriarty <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List HMS Bounty Abandoned - 2 Crew Missing at Sea. > Message-ID: > <CAM7ccYLPz0Wr-mgHa9=UQeq3pO0x3+YcXpkL+V=vx5jusjs...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I wonder if the Captain was expecting to get through the Gulfstream > and then just turn right and deal with less-rough conditions. I have > no familiarity with that region. > Bob M > Ox 33-1 > Jax, FL > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:41:07 -0400 > From: "jtsails" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List HMS Bounty Abandoned - 2 Crew Missing at Sea. > Message-ID: <9D9692E0D3C44D5DA5C4C79440F36B7D@JamesLaptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > It seems from the course track that I have seen that may have been his > intention, but it was a very poor decision! The area he sailed into has a > strong gulf stream flow from Southwest to Northeast and the storm winds > from the Northeast. The waves stack up and get very steep in even a mild > Nor'easter, can't imagine what it was like out there at the time. There's a > reason they call that area the "graveyard of the Atlantic". > James > S/V Delaney > 1976 C&C 38 > Oriental, NC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Moriarty" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:22 PM > Subject: Re: Stus-List HMS Bounty Abandoned - 2 Crew Missing at Sea. > > >> I wonder if the Captain was expecting to get through the Gulfstream >> and then just turn right and deal with less-rough conditions. I have >> no familiarity with that region. >> Bob M >> Ox 33-1 >> Jax, FL >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:47:18 -0700 > From: Tom B <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > From what I understand all of the crew members have been rescued, except for > one...the Captain. If so, no jail time. > > Tom Buscaglia > The Game Attorney PC > 888-848-GLAW > Skype - thombusc > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:35 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Colin writes' "...[w]hen there's already a named storm on the map, why the >> hell are you putting to see [sic] and heading right into it? >> >> Because St. Petersburg, FL is (was!) a paid appearance. These vessels >> operate on appearance fees. That said, this decision was negligence >> bordering on criminal. If the missing crew members are lost, there will be >> jail time. >> >> Richard > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:48:46 -0400 > From: Peter Deppisch <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Stus-List HMS Bounty: A tall ship?s final hours in > hurricane-ravaged seas - The Washington Post > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed > > why leave port to sail into the teeth of a hurricane? > http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/tall-ship-hms-bounty-sinks-off-nc-coast-two-still-missing/2012/10/29/d276daf8-21d8-11e2-8448-81b1ce7d6978_story.html > > Cheers, > Peter > S/V Tangerine > C&C35 MK II > Lion's Head, Ontario > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:26:14 -0400 > From: "Rick Brass" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > Message-ID: <02c201cdb64e$51628d90$f427a8b0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Theree isn't much EAST in her course. Montauk is 41N 71.5W. She sank at > about 31N 71W. It looks like she was reaching/running across the front of > the storm and against the current of the Gulf Stream in the last day or so. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of OldSteveH > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 7:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > > Paid appearance? When is that worth the risk of a sinking and lawsuits? > There's been lots of comments about this unwise decision but my thought is > for the crew, not just around the sinking and rescue but in going out there > in the first place. > > I sailed from Halifax to Bermuda in May with Derek Hatfield on his Open 60. > We were north of Bermuda at the same time as Tropical Storm Alberto (first > storm of the season) was coming up the US east coast. When we got word of > the storm everyones faces went gray. It was very somber on the boat for the > next few hours. How bad was it going to get? As it turned out we only got > max 35 knot winds as we were a few hundred miles from the storm but it makes > me think of the Bounty crew. Did they know what they were going out into? > Prob yes. And they went willingly? Apparently. Were the crew mis-informed? > Many questions and one has to feel for the crew and their families. It must > have been a terrible experience. > > BTW our strategy if things got bad was the same as Bounty's - go east. > > Cheers, > > > Steve Hood > S/V Diamond Girl > C&C 34 > Lions Head ON > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:28:14 -0700 (PDT) > From: Richard Walter <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Colin writes' "...[w]hen there's already a named storm on the map, why the > hell are you putting to see [sic] and heading right into it? > > Because St. Petersburg, FL is (was!) a paid appearance. These vessels > operate on appearance fees. That said, this decision was negligence > bordering on criminal. If the missing crew members are lost, there will be > jail time. > > Richard > > > > > --- On Mon, 10/29/12, Colin Kilgour <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Colin Kilgour <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, October 29, 2012, 11:27 AM > > The storm was already hurricane strength and heading their way BEFORE they > left New London. > > This is their Facebook post from Oct 25, the day they left. > > "Bounty has departed New London CT...Next Port of Call...St. Petersburg, > Florida. > > Bounty will be sailing due East out to sea before heading South to avoid > the brunt of Hurricane Sandy." > > I'm reluctant to question the captain on the boat, but I do have quite a bit > of bluewater experience in that part of the ocean.? When there's already a > named storm on the map, why the hell are you putting to see and heading > right into it? > > > Cheers, > Colin > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Chuck S <[email protected]> wrote: > > Can't believe a ship like Bounty would get caught in a hurricane, but > apparently she was reported today sinking and abandoned off Hatteras and > USCG rescued 14, two still missing? > > > http://www2.wnct.com/news/2012/oct/29/7/coast-guard-rescue-underway-hatteras > -ar-2734769/ > > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > New Gretna, NJ > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:35:21 -0400 > From: "Rick Brass" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > Message-ID: <02c301cdb64f$976bd2f0$c64378d0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The 15th crewmember was located some time before sunset (around 7pm > locally). She was unconscious and unresponsive. She was flown to a hospital > in Elizabeth City (where the CG airbase is) and died in the hospital this > evening. > > I suspect there will be a USCG inquiry and we'll eventually find out more > about what happened. > > > Rick Brass > Washington, NC > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom B > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:47 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Stus-List Bounty sinking today > >> From what I understand all of the crew members have been rescued, except for > one...the Captain. If so, no jail time. > > Tom Buscaglia > The Game Attorney PC > 888-848-GLAW > Skype - thombusc > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:35 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Colin writes' "...[w]hen there's already a named storm on the map, why the > hell are you putting to see [sic] and heading right into it? >> >> Because St. Petersburg, FL is (was!) a paid appearance. These vessels > operate on appearance fees. That said, this decision was negligence > bordering on criminal. If the missing crew members are lost, there will be > jail time. >> >> Richard > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:22:33 -0700 (PDT) > From: dale sheffield <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected] > Subject: Stus-List (no subject) > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > http://wahanapendidikan.com/wp-content/plugins/friends.php?Edward270.html > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20121029/420899df/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:21:29 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Richard N. Bush" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-Sandy and Mystic Seaport > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Its been interesting to see the Weather Channel reporting from Mystic and > Stonington, since we were just there in September for the rendezvous.... I > haven't heard of any damage to the seaport itself, but it looks like the > outer harbor and coastline took a hit. How did the boats in Mass and Rhode > Island fare? > > > Our best to everyone involved; > > Richard > 1987 33-II > > > > Richard N. Bush Law Offices > 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor > Louisville, Kentucky 40202 > 502-584-7255 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20121030/f0f2376e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:28:55 -0400 > From: Gary Russell <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-Sandy and Mystic Seaport > Message-ID: > <CABgkXP+YFgROE47x1=K3kpvZM5CBn6_vo=x3epkqagvg48u...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Expresso survived in East Greenwich, RI without any damage. My best to you > Richard. > > Gary > S/V Expresso > '75 C&C 35 Mk II > EGYC > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Richard N. Bush <[email protected]> wrote: > >> **Its been interesting to see the Weather Channel reporting from Mystic >> and Stonington, since we were just there in September for the >> rendezvous.... I haven't heard of any damage to the seaport itself, but it >> looks like the outer harbor and coastline took a hit. How did the boats in >> Mass and Rhode Island fare? >> >> Our best to everyone involved; >> >> Richard >> 1987 33-II >> >> >> Richard N. Bush Law Offices >> 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor >> Louisville, Kentucky 40202 >> 502-584-7255 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> [email protected] > > > -- > ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20121030/89ef454b/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > [email protected] > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 81, Issue 77 > **************************************** _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected]
