I considered other options but couldn't find any one with molds for a 37+.
All the other rebuild estimates would have needed shipping and no "local"
support.  The other local guys were not specialists but rather just
boatyards that did some fiberglass work.  Talking to Steve at Annapolis
Gelcoat and Fiberglass was really the final selling point.  He had an
entire repair planned before I even got off the phone.  And he could meet
all of my winter haul-out schedule.  The are undoubtedly cheaper ways to
skin this cat but I'm pretty confident that this was the best way for me
and for the money.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk

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On Mar 17, 2013 4:50 PM, "David Risch" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Rick,
>
> Thank you for that info.  This one goes on the file for reference.
>
>
>
> David F. Risch
> 1981 40-2
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 16:12:01 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1989 C&C 37+ rudder rebuild
>
> FWIW, David, I look at all of the work and expense involved in the
> discussions about rebuilding rudders recently and I wonder why owners just
> don’t replace the old/broken/ whatever rudder with a new one.
>
>
>
> That is what I did in January 2011. I got several quotes and talked to a
> local boat repairperson who is very good and also a friend about doing the
> job. I even got thorough instructions from someone on one of the forums
> (Sailnet, SA, I cant recall) who had step by step photos of how he rebuilt
> a rudder using his existing stock. The results:
>
> C&C Yachts – had a price of $3600 for a new rudder, but turned out they
> didn’t have the drawings or a mould.
>
> Local shop – around $4000
>
> Do it myself – around $1600 and a 2-4 weeks work (Clean up existing stock
> and add a new stainless web, laminate Davincell foam to web, shape the
> foam, wrap with glass & epoxy, fair, prime, paint)
>
> CCI/Phil’s Foils - $2900CDN for the foil plus $160 to reuse my stock, plus
> shipping. Surprisingly a new steel stock and web was $1600, but a carbon
> fiber stock & web was only $1300)
>
> Foss Foam - $2450 reusing my old stock. Shipping the old stock to Florida
> was about $50, and FedEx ground for the completed and primed rudder was
> surprisingly only $125. Foss even made me a new stack of Delrin bearings to
> go between the rudder and the hull, and under the retaining nut in the
> cockpit.
>
>
>
> I figured that Foss was by far the best value. And while the rudder was
> out I removed the pedestal, rebuilt and refinished it, replaced the idler
> plate under the cockpit, and replaced the throttle and shift cables.  All
> of that was maintenance I wanted to do before cruising. I’m hoping to have
> no problems with the steering for another 36 years.
>
>
>
> And, actually, I think my new rudder is better than the old one. The stock
> on a 38 is made from 2” schedule 80 stainless pipe (2 ½”OD) with a machined
> plug welded to the top for the retainer nut. The wen was carbon steel. I
> used the stock off a similar vintage LF38 (the former Banana Wind) that was
> machined out of a solid 2 ½” OD stainless bar. The rudder is heavier, but I
> can’t imagine the grounding that would bend it or the crevice corrosion
> that could eat through it.
>
>
>
> Anyway, based on my experience I’d look into a replacement rudder before I
> launched into a rebuild of an old one.
>
>
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *David
> Risch
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2013 2:28 PM
> *To:* CNC CNC
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1989 C&C 37+ rudder rebuild
>
>
>
> Thanks Josh...one of my next projects...
>
> David F. Risch
> 1981 40-2
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
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