He is very well informed on terminology and that is great but I still call it barging the line.I am not a judge and I avoided protest hearings but I did study the rules of racing a while back.I think I knew when I had to give way and that was the most important thing for me to know after my first and only low speed collision with another boat.I was in the wrong but no big damage and no injury.I can't talk with the proper terminology because I did try to learn that and I can't cite the rules by number but I think I understand them.I would be prepared to do that if I raced and wanted to get into protest hearings.I don't want that anymore
Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _____ From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles Nelson Sent: April 12, 2013 10:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List Fwd: More on Race Collision and Protest Decision These comments may be relevant regarding the protest results. I did not review the video enough to comment. Perhaps the list might chime in. Charlie Nelson Water Phantom C&C 36 XL/kcb Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Bill Kirsch <[email protected]> Date: April 12, 2013, 3:05:53 PM EDT To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;> Subject: More on Race Collision and Protest Decision Reply-To: "Bill Kirsch" <[email protected]> ODC MEMBERSHIP The message below was sent a couple of days ago to all ODC club members.... There have been a few interesting e-mails regarding this and those interchanges brought out good points that should be noted: 1. Barging is a term commonly used, however it is not a proper term in the Racing Rules. This is an excellent example of not keeping clear. Barging should not have been referenced. 2. The protest committee's ruling was that BLUE was scored DNF - Did Not Finish. Several of us take issue with this since BLUE was OCS - On Course Side at the start signal and did not return to start correctly. Therefore how could she be scored DNF? She didn't start .. At best you'd call her OCS. 3. Since BLUE was ruled as not keeping clear and significant damage to boat and personnel, she should have been scored DSQ - Disqualified. See RRS 64.1 4. Take note that this race occurred in April, 2013. The NOR stated that the race would be run under the RRS of 2009-2012 while the S/I's stated the RRS of 2013-2016. For the most part ODC has been writing our NOR's and S/I's stating that the race is run under the Racing Rules of Sailing. We do not include the year since there are only one set of rules in effect - the current ones. It is possible that a race, say in January, 2013, could be run under the previous rules because the new rule books may not have had time to get to all of the racing community. In that case it would be necessary to specifically state that the rules being used are the previous ones eg: Racing Rules of Sailing 2009-2012. Bill [email protected] _____ _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5740 - Release Date: 04/12/13
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