Winch handles without locking cams should be labelled - "Caution, this handle is headed for the bottom of the bay - It's only a matter of time".
Saturday it went into 400 ft of water. When a loop from a reef line plucked it off the cabintop main winch and gracefully flipped it into the water was almost like slow motion - nothing you can do about it, but watch. Oh well, it was destined for the bottom on the day it was made, now I get to buy one with a locking cam. Have a great day. Steve Hood S/V Diamond Girl C&C 34 Lions Head ON -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: June-19-13 12:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 89, Issue 47 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: 1974WESTERBEKE FOR SALE (Aaron Rouhi) 2. Looking for 37/40 +, R and XL owners (Tom Buscaglia) 3. Flax Packing for 1985 Landfall 39 ([email protected]) 4. Sloppy gear shift lever (Stevan Plavsa) 5. Re: Sloppy gear shift lever (Knowles Rich) 6. Re: Sloppy gear shift lever (Stevan Plavsa) 7. Re: Sloppy gear shift lever (Knowles Rich) 8. Re: Sloppy gear shift lever (Frederick G Street) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:13:17 -0400 From: Aaron Rouhi <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1974WESTERBEKE FOR SALE Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Electric? Cool! What make/model? On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:28 PM, "Alex Giannelia" <[email protected]> wrote: > I have now pulled the 1974 original Westerbeke and transmission out of Wind Spirit and she is looking for a new home while her hostess is going electric. > > ALEX GIANNELIA > > CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED > ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006 > Toronto Ontario > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130618/29 093c2a/attachment-0001.html> -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:13:29 -0700 From: Tom Buscaglia <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List Looking for 37/40 +, R and XL owners Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Jorge Alera, 1990 37+/40 Wing Keel here. This is our 2nd year with Alera, so we are still in the Honeymoon stage. We are cruisers, so I won't comment on the race capability of the 47+/40. But, she sure sails like a thoroughbred. Alera was a great lakes boat with less than 500 hrs on her engine, a real cream puff. Treated well, and never sailed too hard or raced as far as I know. I decided on the model and then looked at a bunch before getting Alera. I felt it was a perfect configuration for my wife and I and I am convinced I was absolutely correct in that. I'll echo what Edd said about the cockpit...we are still getting used to it due to it being so relatively shallow, especially compared to our 35 MK 1. We added rail seats in the corners of the aft pulpit which provides additional spots for sitting and helped. Cushions and pillows also help. Of course, the aft stateroom make it a small price to pay. Coming up from a 35 MK1 to the 37+ was a little daunting at first, but now we fell right at home and the two of us (both in our 60's) have no trouble with her. On extended cruises we seems to like being on board more an more as the trip progresses. I installed Kato Davits and we carry a 9' Avon with a 9.9 taitsu which seems to balance the anchor, windlass, chain combo nicely. Go figure. Gert Tiel did our survey and since she had spent most of her life at Niagara on the Lake (C&C home port) I had a high comfort level in his ability to spot issues, though we bought her on the hard in the winter, so locating moisture was not really possible. But no issues whatsoever. I did hear of a 37+ here in Seattle recently that had delamination issues, though I do not know if it was with the balsa core deck or kevlar hull. But that might be a deal killer for anyone. No deck/hull joint issues on Alera or on any other 37+ that I know of. As far as I am concerned, Alera is the perfect boat, at least it is for us. We were on her today, just for a few minutes, and my wife and I both remarked how great she is and how much we love her.. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions..... Tom B >Message: 5 >Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:59:00 +0000 >From: "Gomez, Jorge K" <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Subject: Stus-List Looking for 37/40 +, R and XL owners >Message-ID: > ><62a473f440d75848a774450e3e5bdf3010a...@cgtsemb20017.s2.ms.unilever.com >> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Hello C&Cers, > >My wife and I are seriously considering a C&C 37/40 XL with a 8ft fin >keel for upcoming double handed cruising and full crewed racing in the >Caribbean (primarily windward and leeward islands) > > >From our impressions after a boat visit and short test sail the > boat seems to fit the bill however, as part of the pre-offer due > diligence and research we would like to chat with current and past > owners of these fine boats to gather insight and learn from their > experience. We want to hear it all, the good the bad and the ugly. > >If you can spare a few minutes, we would be most grateful. Please send >me a private message and I will be happy to either call you or exchange >emails. > >Our biggest questions/concerns in our mind are around: >-Cockpit comfort for long passages/crossings -Aft cabin ventilation at >anchor in hot climates -How to properly survey the boat given balsa >core and Kevlar mix...heard lots of different opinions here and it is >our major concern at the moment. >-Hull to deck joint, any issues here after 20+ years? >-Sailing behavior in chop going to weather (wet/dry/pounding/hobby >horsing) -How does it behave once you load the bow with a 45lb anchor, >a windlass and the 140ft of chain that we will need to cruise in the >Caribbean (200lbs+) -Behavior downwind under a full kite in 15 to 25 >knots and a following sea. >-Would it sail to its rating in typical Caribbean conditions of average >12 to 25 knots and moderate chop? (yes, we will junk the big anchor and >chain for racing...) Our competition in the Caribbean will be a mixed >fleet of J35, J95, J105, J109, Dufour 40, Bene 36.7 and 40.7, Sigma 41, >Elan 37, etc and we may rate with a 135% as our largest >headsail...looking for advise here... >-Your experience > >Since the hull is the same for all the versions (+, R and XL) we would >like to hear from owners of all models..racers and cruisers. > >Grateful in advance for your time and advise, > >Jorge Tom Buscaglia SV Alera C&C 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130619/34 d6478a/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:07:39 -0300 From: Knowles Rich <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sloppy gear shift lever Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sounds as though you have worn bushings in the pedestal. Suggest simply removing the compass assembly and digging down until you find the cause. There is no magic cure. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-06-19, at 9:49, Stevan Plavsa <[email protected]> wrote: Hi All, The gear shift lever on my 32 is sloppy as all hell. This is my second season with the boat and it's been this way since I've gotten it and I'm wondering if it can be tightened or something? There is no obvious method to do so. By sloppy I mean, play, there is loads of play both up and down in the direction of shifting as well as fore and aft. Thanks, Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:31:41 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Sloppy gear shift lever Message-ID: <CADdEvn4KB0QmW9cic3vmek-mQ9R+OHPWOU65Okn=ybg0zcx...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks Rich. So the compass is the main point of entry into the pedestal? That's good to know, I'll check it out. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Knowles Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > Sounds as though you have worn bushings in the pedestal. Suggest > simply removing the compass assembly and digging down until you find the cause. > There is no magic cure. > > Rich Knowles > Indigo. LF38 > Halifax > > On 2013-06-19, at 9:49, Stevan Plavsa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi All, > > The gear shift lever on my 32 is sloppy as all hell. This is my second > season with the boat and it's been this way since I've gotten it and > I'm wondering if it can be tightened or something? There is no obvious > method to do so. > By sloppy I mean, play, there is loads of play both up and down in the > direction of shifting as well as fore and aft. > > Thanks, > > Steve > Suhana, C&C 32 > Toronto > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130619/f4 481ed2/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:37:34 -0300 From: Knowles Rich <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sloppy gear shift lever Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just be careful taking things apart. Small screws have a great fondness for cockpit drains. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-06-19, at 10:31, Stevan Plavsa <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks Rich. So the compass is the main point of entry into the pedestal? That's good to know, I'll check it out. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Knowles Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > Sounds as though you have worn bushings in the pedestal. Suggest simply removing the compass assembly and digging down until you find the cause. There is no magic cure. > > Rich Knowles > Indigo. LF38 > Halifax > > On 2013-06-19, at 9:49, Stevan Plavsa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi All, > > The gear shift lever on my 32 is sloppy as all hell. This is my second season with the boat and it's been this way since I've gotten it and I'm wondering if it can be tightened or something? There is no obvious method to do so. > By sloppy I mean, play, there is loads of play both up and down in the direction of shifting as well as fore and aft. > > Thanks, > > Steve > Suhana, C&C 32 > Toronto > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130619/d5 63bf03/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:53:07 -0500 From: Frederick G Street <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Sloppy gear shift lever Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Or for dropping down the pedestal riser tube. BTW, with all this talk of engine control cables: with my recent pedestal/engine control replacement, I had ordered a Teleflex CCX64306 transmission control cable (six feet long), then found that it actually needed to be a seven-footer; so I have the six-footer available to anyone on the list who might need one. This is the Teleflex TFXTREME line of heavy-duty, super flexible control cables; the jacket is black, as opposed to the red most of have on our boats as original equipment. The threaded fittings on the ends are 5/16-24. The cables sell for over $100; first offer of $50 plus shipping gets the prize? :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 19, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Knowles Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > Just be careful taking things apart. Small screws have a great fondness for cockpit drains. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130619/2d f53b32/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ CnC-List mailing list [email protected] http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ------------------------------ End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 89, Issue 47 **************************************** _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected]
