Thanks Jack for your input So this is interesting because you're saying the wires were swaged and EDSON is telling me as well as showing on their literature that they use nicropress and thimble fittings...
ALEX GIANNELIA Phone (416) 203-9858 Fax (416) 203-9843 Cell (416) 529-0070 email: [email protected] WEB: www.airsensing.com -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: August 23, 2013 9:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 91, Issue 83 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Head Piping and Bilge Pump Discharge (Alan Bergen) 2. Re: EDSON SWAGE VS THIMBLE SETUP (Alan Bergen) 3. Re: EDSON SWAGE VS THIMBLE SETUP (Josh Muckley) 4. Re: 1 1/2" ID Exhaust hose (Josh Muckley) 5. Re: Tachometer for a 3QM30H Yanmar (Knowles Rich) 6. Re: [SPAM]Re: 1 1/2" ID Exhaust hose (Jake Brodersen) 7. Re: EDSON SWAGE VS THIMBLE SETUP ([email protected]) 8. 37+ (Rhhulit) 9. Re: C&C 30 mk II skylight (Ken Heaton) 10. Re: EDSON SWAGE VS THIMBLE SETUP (Knowles Rich) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 05:11:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Alan Bergen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Piping and Bilge Pump Discharge Message-ID: <1016090666.654347.1377234698498.javamail.r...@sz0030a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" My original setup had a three-way valve so I could pump the head to the holding tank, or overboard. I also had a manual "bilge pump" attached so I could pump the holding tank overboard when I couldn't get to a pumpout. I changed this arrangement so that it would be simpler. My current configuration has the head pumping into the holding tank, which can be emptied using the deck discharge at a pumpout station, or using the "bilge pump" to empty the holding tank overboard. Remember to use high quality discharge hose. It's expensive, but necessary so that you won't get smell emanating from the hose. Alan Bergen C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Josh -- When privacy matters. http://www.secure-my-email.com On Aug 22, 2013 10:38 PM, "Alex Giannelia" <[email protected]> wrote: > Another discovery I want to check with listers. > > When I removed the EDSON 335 pedestal, there was a swaged wire fitted to > the quadrant and attached to the chain. When I sent this to EDSON, they > said that is not an EDSON setup, and that all EDSON set ups use SS wire, > thimbles and nicropress sleees. > > Is that what other listers have? > Why pay EDSON their big fee when you can get those parts easily at a good > hardware store, or chandlery? > > ALEX GIANNELIA > > CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED > ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006 > Toronto Ontario > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've also > been busy waxing and cleaning as well as fixing a bunch of little things > that needed attention. > > My question is : Is it really such a bad idea to replace the original 1 > 1/2 ID exhaust hose with an identical hose? (And not going to 2" as per > the " current school of thought" ) > > Prior to purchase, The surveyor noted hairline cracks at the loop before > discharge with some evidence of very minor leaks. I finally got around to > disconnecting it and wrestling it out of the boat. It appears to be > original with and internal diameter of 1.5 inch and 12 feet in length. I > checked with my mechanic to see if he had one on hand and he scolded me for > even considering replacing it with another 1.5 inch diameter instead of the > "Prescribed" 2 inches stating that I was killing the engine with excessive > back pressure. > > The thing is: This boat is clearly designed for a 1.5 inch hose. > > - The stern discharge exhaust through hull is molded as an integral > part of the hull and is 1.5 inch in diameter. ( I saw it during the survey > while the boat was out of the water). > - Also, there's no way a 2 inch diameter hose would fit between the > bottom of the fuel tank and the hull where it runs from the muffler to the > stern. To get a 2 inch hose through you'd have to lift the tank and > squeeze it back in place while compressing the hose. > - There are no hard bends or kinks, it's a straight run to the loop > before the integrated hull discharge > > > The engine runs fine, the boat makes 7 knots at 2,800 rpm's or so and get > up to hull speed (about 7.5) when you give it full throttle for while so > for all appearances, it's making all the power it's supposed to make. > > All this after 23 years of "being killed" by back pressure. > > I might consider reworking the exhaust situation this winter when she's on > the hard for a bottom job but for now, there's no way I'm missing on > precious weekends on the lake with the family for a very remote possibility > of an issue with this. > > Am I taking such a risk? > > Thanks in advance, > > Francois Rivard > 1990 C&C 34+ "Take Five" > > > > > [image: Inactive hide details for cnc-list-request---08/22/2013 12:05:42 > PM---Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-l]cnc-list-request---08/22/2013 > 12:05:42 PM---Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: 08/22/2013 12:05 PM > Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 91, Issue 80 > Sent by: "CnC-List" <[email protected]> > ------------------------------ > > > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: test (Andrew Burton) > 2. Re: test (Rick Brass) > 3. Re: test (Andrew Burton) > 4. Re: test (Frederick G Street) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:45:25 -0400 > From: Andrew Burton <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List test > Message-ID: > <CAGAfpmZdQ64GCEZrcR_d=QWE=90ZX8+AKDYBm3m=batx2_8...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I think the number you're looking for is 42. > Andy > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Della Barba, Joe > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > 1**** > > > > ** ** > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > [email protected] > > > > > > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > phone +401 965 5260 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130822/9f3b1ebb/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:58:39 -0400 > From: "Rick Brass" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List test > Message-ID: <00c101ce9f48$16bb2bf0$443183d0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Good one, Andy. > > > > Now the question in my curious geek mind is whether you've read the > Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe, you know a lot about General > Relativity, > or both? > > > > Rick Brass > > > > From: CnC-List > [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > On Behalf Of Andrew > Burton > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List test > > > > I think the number you're looking for is 42. > > Andy > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Della Barba, Joe < > [email protected]> > wrote: > > 1 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > > > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > phone +401 965 5260 > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130822/5c79ca50/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:32:06 -0400 > From: Andrew Burton <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List test > Message-ID: > <cagafpmydmocjfe3h8vjmavypdkbhkkdqchnjqnyldhhpeoy...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > The former. And google helped me find out what you are talking about with > the latter. Facinating! I wonder if Douglas Adams knew that? > > Andy > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Rick Brass <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Good one, Andy.**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Now the question in my curious geek mind is whether you?ve read the > > Hitchhiker?s Guide to the Universe, you know a lot about General > > Relativity, or both?**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Rick Brass**** > > > > ** ** > > > > *From:* CnC-List > > [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Andrew > > Burton > > *Sent:* Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:45 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List test**** > > > > ** ** > > > > I think the number you're looking for is 42.**** > > > > Andy**** > > > > ** ** > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Della Barba, Joe < > > [email protected]> wrote:**** > > > > 1**** > > > > **** > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > [email protected]**** > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Andrew Burton > > 61 W Narragansett Ave > > Newport, RI > > USA 02840 > > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > > phone +401 965 5260 **** > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > [email protected] > > > > > > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > phone +401 965 5260 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130822/3b56ba78/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:58:04 -0500 > From: Frederick G Street <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List test > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Andy, you beat me to it! > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > > On Aug 22, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Andrew Burton <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I think the number you're looking for is 42. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130822/4345888a/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > [email protected] > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 91, Issue 80 > **************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If either the stop cable is not returning fully or pushed in all the way, the throttle lever on the fuel pump will retract too far and the engine will stop. Sometimes a good shot of lubricant or WD30 will fix it, but it may need more than that. I see you may be close to me (Halifax). If needs be I can have a look at it with you. I'm very familiar with it:) Rich Knowles INDIGO LF38 Halifax, NS. On 2013-08-17, at 6:42 PM, [email protected] wrote: Like Josh, I find the tachometer is most useful for shifting the transmission. With my 3MQ30, pushing the throttle down too far shuts the engine off...not what you want to happen while docking. Unfortunately, my tach just recently only works when the engine is cold...once up to temp, its stops working. I miss it when it goes on the fritz. Bill LF38 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:39:27 -0400 From: "Jake Brodersen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List [SPAM]Re: 1 1/2" ID Exhaust hose Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Francois, When I replaced my muffler several years ago, I used a muffler with a 2" outlet. I ran 2" hose all the way to the transom and then used an adapter to attach it to the exit fitting. The boat sounds better now, but that could be because of the fiberglass muffler instead of the original stainless one. I think either size would have worked, but I just felt better about using larger hose. I'm still limited by the size of the exit, but engine is happy and that's all I care about. Jake From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois J Rivard Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 5:17 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; CnC-List Subject: [SPAM]Re: Stus-List 1 1/2" ID Exhaust hose Good afternoon gents, I'm the new kid on the block. I purchased Steven Thorne's 34+ about 6 weeks ago and my family an I are enjoying the boat tremendously. I've also been busy waxing and cleaning as well as fixing a bunch of little things that needed attention. My question is : Is it really such a bad idea to replace the original 1 1/2 ID exhaust hose with an identical hose? (And not going to 2" as per the " current school of thought" ) Prior to purchase, The surveyor noted hairline cracks at the loop before discharge with some evidence of very minor leaks. I finally got around to disconnecting it and wrestling it out of the boat. It appears to be original with and internal diameter of 1.5 inch and 12 feet in length. I checked with my mechanic to see if he had one on hand and he scolded me for even considering replacing it with another 1.5 inch diameter instead of the "Prescribed" 2 inches stating that I was killing the engine with excessive back pressure. The thing is: This boat is clearly designed for a 1.5 inch hose. * The stern discharge exhaust through hull is molded as an integral part of the hull and is 1.5 inch in diameter. ( I saw it during the survey while the boat was out of the water). * Also, there's no way a 2 inch diameter hose would fit between the bottom of the fuel tank and the hull where it runs from the muffler to the stern. To get a 2 inch hose through you'd have to lift the tank and squeeze it back in place while compressing the hose. * There are no hard bends or kinks, it's a straight run to the loop before the integrated hull discharge The engine runs fine, the boat makes 7 knots at 2,800 rpm's or so and get up to hull speed (about 7.5) when you give it full throttle for while so for all appearances, it's making all the power it's supposed to make. All this after 23 years of "being killed" by back pressure. I might consider reworking the exhaust situation this winter when she's on the hard for a bottom job but for now, there's no way I'm missing on precious weekends on the lake with the family for a very remote possibility of an issue with this. Am I taking such a risk? Thanks in advance, Francois Rivard 1990 C&C 34+ "Take Five" Inactive hide details for cnc-list-request---08/22/2013 12:05:42 PM---Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-lcnc-list-request---08/22/2013 12:05:42 PM---Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to [email protected] From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: 08/22/2013 12:05 PM Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 91, Issue 80 Sent by: "CnC-List" <[email protected]> _____ Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: test (Andrew Burton) 2. Re: test (Rick Brass) 3. Re: test (Andrew Burton) 4. Re: test (Frederick G Street) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:45:25 -0400 From: Andrew Burton <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List test Message-ID: <CAGAfpmZdQ64GCEZrcR_d=QWE=90ZX8+AKDYBm3m=batx2_8...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think the number you're looking for is 42. Andy On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Della Barba, Joe <[email protected]>wrote: > 1**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Andy On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Della Barba, Joe <[email protected]> wrote: 1 _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130822/5c 79ca50/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:32:06 -0400 From: Andrew Burton <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List test Message-ID: <cagafpmydmocjfe3h8vjmavypdkbhkkdqchnjqnyldhhpeoy...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" The former. And google helped me find out what you are talking about with the latter. Facinating! I wonder if Douglas Adams knew that? Andy On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Rick Brass <[email protected]>wrote: > Good one, Andy.**** > > ** ** > > Now the question in my curious geek mind is whether you?ve read the > Hitchhiker?s Guide to the Universe, you know a lot about General > Relativity, or both?**** > > ** ** > > Rick Brass**** > > ** ** > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Andrew > Burton > *Sent:* Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:45 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List test**** > > ** ** > > I think the number you're looking for is 42.**** > > Andy**** > > ** ** > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Della Barba, Joe < > [email protected]> wrote:**** > > 1**** > > **** > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected]**** > > > > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > phone +401 965 5260 **** > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 105 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130823/7455437a/attachment-0001.gif> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:23:51 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List EDSON SWAGE VS THIMBLE SETUP Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I just rebuilt Honey's entire Edson steering system. The entire parts kit including next day FedEx costs USD 1,122.00. The new chain & cable kit with the wires properly swaged and shrinkwrapped including all of the quadrant clamps was USD 268.00. According to Edson's support tech the safe average life span of the chain and cable is 10 years. Mine was 20 years old and looked great right up until we bent the cable and watch little pieces of wire begin to pop up. The chain was stretched as well...The only 2 pieces that we did not replace was the wheel shaft and wheel nut... Edson's service was excellent, they even sent me a copy of the original steering plan for my original builder's file. If you call them, ask for Adam Cove.. Jack Fitzgerald HONEY C&C 39 TM In a message dated 8/23/2013 1:39:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Just make sure the chain is right for the sprocket. Aside from that I can't think of a good reason to change from what you have. Though, I don't recall being shocked by the Edson price for a chain and wire. I've definitely come to a point in life where I start to appreciate the value of my time fiddling and piecing things together just to save a few bucks. Josh -- When privacy matters. _http://www.secure-my-email.com_ (http://www.secure-my-email.com/) On Aug 22, 2013 10:38 PM, "Alex Giannelia" <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: Another discovery I want to check with listers. When I removed the EDSON 335 pedestal, there was a swaged wire fitted to the quadrant and attached to the chain. When I sent this to EDSON, they said that is not an EDSON setup, and that all EDSON set ups use SS wire, thimbles and nicropress sleees. Is that what other listers have? Why pay EDSON their big fee when you can get those parts easily at a good hardware store, or chandlery? ALEX GIANNELIA CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006 Toronto Ontario _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album _http://www.cncphotoalbum.com_ (http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/) [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130823/1079661a/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:01:35 -0400 From: Rhhulit <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List 37+ Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > All, thank you for your responses, i will do a search, and any pictures would > be most helpful. Our boat, now Kindred, was the old Ajax not Blue Pearl. We > have the wing keel and teak decks. I understand Blue Pearl was in tough > shape, ours just needed updated running rigging and electronics, etc. > > Richard H. Hulit, Jr. > 1 917 854-5537 mobile ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:07:13 -0300 From: Ken Heaton <[email protected]> To: "Dennis C." <[email protected]>, cnc-list <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mk II skylight Message-ID: <CAAbfP6TtXKMmVuw8Og0APV+fZqqGBC=a8s3gobhjzxocgyf...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes, but in this case I think the skylight lens in question is bonded to the flat surface of the deck. If it is like the skylight on a 37+ there is no depression the lens fits into, no frame, the lexan panel just lays there so the choice of adhesive / sealant is very important. As the boat flexes under sail there are significant stresses on this panel so the band has to be strong. Ken H. On 18 August 2013 23:25, Dennis C. <[email protected]> wrote: > FWIW, I've successfully bedded ports in J30's and hatch lenses in both > Bomar and Lewmar hatches with black LifeSeal by Life Products. It's a > silicone/polyurethane blend. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > mandeville, LA > > ------------------------------ > *From:* S?bastien Lemieux <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Sunday, August 18, 2013 8:36 PM > *Subject:* Stus-List C&C 30 mk II skylight > > I replaced mine with a Lexan panel too last year. I used black 4200 as > the adhesive, which proved to be a bad decision on my part as it seems that > 4200 adheres poorly to lexan (let me know how it turns out for you Pete!). > This spring, I noticed the panel was half loose and that water was getting > in at an alarming rate. I removed the panel and cleaned up the 4200. > > I have been recommended a silicone-based sealant specially made to bed > lexan windows (sika 295 uv), but somehow managed to skip the parts of the > instructions where the use of a primer was mentioned. Last month, I > noticed the panel is loose again with water finding its way in again. > > The only upside I see to my hard-n-slow learning approach is that I'm > giving myself so many opportunities to work on my goo-handling abilities! > > S?bastien Lemieux > Merlot X - C&C 30 mk2 1987 > Lake Champlain > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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