Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum having an auction next Sat in St. Mikes. Check this video and around 1:50 for the C&C.
Cheers Joe Boyle C&C 30 MK1 - Zia -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 11:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 91, Issue 88 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Splicing Amsteel (Russ & Melody) 2. Butyl Tape (Bob Moriarty) 3. Re: Butyl Tape (Knowles Rich) 4. Re: Butyl Tape (Wally Bryant) 5. classic C&C stripe? (Curtis) 6. Re: classic C&C stripe? (Paul Baker) 7. Re: Butyl Tape ([email protected]) 8. Re: classic C&C stripe? ([email protected]) 9. Re: Butyl Tape (Pat Nevitt) 10. Re: classic C&C stripe? (Dennis C.) 11. FW: TakeThemAMeal.com: Mary Lynn Vincent (TOM VINCENT) 12. Re: Butyl Tape (jtsails) 13. Re: Butyl Tape ([email protected]) 14. How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??) (Richard Walter) 15. Re: How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??) (Wally Bryant) 16. Re: How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??) (Steve Thomas) 17. Re: How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??) (Edd Schillay) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:00:44 -0700 From: Russ & Melody <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Splicing Amsteel Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" For a really reliable eye splice go with a locked Brummel and as always, "a bit more tail please". It's best not to try and figure it out... just do it and smile. Here's a simple example from one of our favourite sites: http://www.animatedknots.com/brummel/ Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 -1 At 10:03 AM 23/08/2013, you wrote: >Google "Amsteel eye splice" or something similar. There's lots of >information on line. Even videos. > >sam :-) >From: Indigo >Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:35 AM >To: [email protected] >Reply To: [email protected] >Subject: Stus-List Splicing Amsteel > >I have just been persuaded by West Marine to use Amsteel to make a >short (2ft) strop to raise the upper swivel on my roller furler so that >the entry/exit angle to the sheave is better to prevent a halyard wrap. >In the store, they made it sound so easy to splice round a thimble.! > >Essentially they told me to pass the end of the line through the >working section, and then back through one side and feed the end up >inside the working section. Sounded easy! Anyone done this and got >any tips? I can get the first stage done, but do not seem to be able >to get the loose end inside the working section! > >Jonathan >Indigo 35-3 Southport CT > > > > >_______________________________________________ >This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] > >_______________________________________________ >This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130824/b1 b1db44/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 19:01:09 -0400 From: Bob Moriarty <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List Butyl Tape Message-ID: <cam7ccykkmzipi9794_wokgmhtdd1dib7tkrswds1ix+s19f...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I keep a roll in the refrigerator. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Persuasion <[email protected]> wrote: > All hale the great butyl tape!! > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130824/26 77b541/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 20:16:19 -0300 From: Knowles Rich <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Tape Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Good on rye with Dijon. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-08-24, at 20:01, Bob Moriarty <[email protected]> wrote: I keep a roll in the refrigerator. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Persuasion <[email protected]> wrote: > All hale the great butyl tape!! > > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130824/d1 716ef6/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 23:54:21 +0000 From: Wally Bryant <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Tape Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed But you have to let it warm up before you can eat it. The storm 'IVO' made a turn and barely left a centimeter of rain on me. <http://eebmike.com/> Bummer. I was looking forward to scrubbing the decks in 20 knots and getting a free rinse. Wal you wrote: > I keep a roll in the refrigerator. -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 19:55:03 -0400 From: Curtis <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List classic C&C stripe? Message-ID: <calf-bnse9syshtptpfrwobcoq09annirig1muhuw+mjfqrt...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 My C&C 30 has no stripe color. I would like to make it have color. Has anybldy used 1/2 3M tape for this or does it have to be painted on? -- ?The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.? ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 17:21:07 -0700 From: Paul Baker <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List classic C&C stripe? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed I used it, simple, effective. On 13-08-24 04:55 PM, Curtis wrote: > My C&C 30 has no stripe color. I would like to make it have color. Has > anybldy used 1/2 3M tape for this or does it have to be painted on? > > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:34:53 -0600 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Tape Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130824/a6 1225a2/attachment-0001.html> -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:37:21 -0600 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List classic C&C stripe? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130824/b8 ca3b33/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 17:43:04 -0700 From: Pat Nevitt <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Tape Message-ID: <CACZht68cG3-PTCz1XJvSR7Ad31uJSngums=xzzcsd08et+g...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Try removing anything bonded with 5200 to your gelcoat as easily as Butyl. It isn't going to happen. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:34 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I hate to rain on a parade - well maybe not, but butyl tape was used to > seal our 1970's C&C 's hull to deck joints. It's a pain in the arse! > There is a lot better stuff been invented since the '70's. > Nobody uses butyl tape except those guys that buy the stuff off that guy > on sailnet. > Get a grip people! > Sikaflex / 4200 / 5200 and lots of other sealers are waaay better than > butyl. > > sam :-) > *From: *Bob Moriarty > *Sent: *Saturday, August 24, 2013 5:01 PM > *To: *[email protected] > *Reply To: *[email protected] > *Subject: *Stus-List Butyl Tape > > I keep a roll in the refrigerator. > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Persuasion <[email protected]>wrote: > >> All hale the great butyl tape!! >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > [email protected] > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130824/af a269a1/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:09:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dennis C." <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List classic C&C stripe? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Cove stripe? I used 5/8 3M automotive stripe tape to replace Touche's cove stripe after repainting.? Great stuff. Hint:? make a template for trimming the ends so they all look the same.? Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA >________________________________ > From: Curtis <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:55 PM >Subject: Stus-List classic C&C stripe? > > >My C&C 30 has no stripe color. I would like to make it have color. Has >anybldy used 1/2 3M tape for this or does it have to be painted on? > > >-- >?The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to >change; the realist adjusts the sails.? > >_______________________________________________ >This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >[email protected] > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130824/0b 43cf0b/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 21:21:25 -0400 From: TOM VINCENT <[email protected]> To: C&C Forum <[email protected]> Subject: Stus-List FW: TakeThemAMeal.com: Mary Lynn Vincent Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Some of you have asked what you can do regarding Mary Lynn's situation. A program has been set up for anyone that would like to help. Please do not feel that you need to do something. Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers. Tom and Mary Lynn From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: FW: TakeThemAMeal.com: Mary Lynn Vincent Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 17:18:55 -0400 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 11:09:04 -0400 To: [email protected] Subject: TakeThemAMeal.com: Mary Lynn Vincent From: [email protected] A meal schedule has been created using TakeThemAMeal.com, and you've been invited to participate! Meals are needed for: Mary Lynn Vincent If you would like to sign up, you can access the meal schedule by clicking here, or by visiting TakeThemAMeal.com and locating the schedule by recipient last name (Vincent) and password (1024). I have included additional notes about this meal schedule below. If you have any questions, please let me know! Thanks, Kathy Keogh 302.738.7387 [email protected] Additional Notes: Please call Tom on your scheduled day to set up a time for delivery. The number is 456.3222. This e-mail was automatically generated by TakeThemAMeal.com. If you enjoy using TakeThemAMeal.com, be sure to check out PerfectPotluck.com, for scheduling group meals. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130824/f7 b2ea27/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 21:41:26 -0400 From: "jtsails" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Tape Message-ID: <09BE1514AE014022A73276FF38672D36@JamesLaptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yeah, right....(sarcasm on). James Delaney 1976 C&C 38 Mk II Oriental, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:34 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Tape I hate to rain on a parade - well maybe not, but butyl tape was used to seal our 1970's C&C 's hull to deck joints. It's a pain in the arse!There is a lot better stuff been invented since the '70's.Nobody uses butyl tape except those guys that buy the stuff off that guy on sailnet.Get a grip people!Sikaflex / 4200 / 5200 and lots of other sealers are waaay better than butyl. sam :-) From: Bob Moriarty Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 5:01 PM To: [email protected] Reply To: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List Butyl Tape I keep a roll in the refrigerator. 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Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, As our quest for a more comfortable boat continues, we are finding that one issue continues to be a quandary: how do we sleep? Currently we fill in INDIGO's u-dinette every night and disassemble it every day; it is effective but annoying. Plus we have to climb over each other and the saloon table. We are looking at center cockpit boats, including the Landfall 43s. Many have a centerline berth, which seems optimal. We don't sail at night and don't plan to (so we are not afraid of falling out underway). The transverse and pullman style berths both have the "crawl-over" factor; do we want to keep climbing over each other to get into/out of bed forever? Not really. Pullman seem a little more sleeper-friendly. Anyone want to share their experiences with various styles of aft cabin berths? What do you like/dislike and why? Other boat search factors: we need a functional galley with abundant counter space. We don't race, so PHRF matters not at all. We want good/great sailing with ease of sail handling. This will (hopefully!) be our forever boat, so we want to be planful. Thank you all in advance for your consideration. Richard s/v INDIGO 1978 36-footer Watch Hill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130825/0a 2d7a3a/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:53:54 +0000 From: Wally Bryant <[email protected]> To: Richard Walter <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??) Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Rich wrote: > <snip> do we want to keep climbing over each other to get into/out of bed forever? ...<snip> Well, Rich, that depends. Sometimes it's a great view to wake up to at 2 a.m.... Actually, you're looking at boats that are out of my budget range. But, yeah, a center cockpit boat with an aft center cabin sounds like what you're looking for. My only 2 cents on that is that you should still make sure the boat is rigged (or re-riggable) to sail short handed with a stiff back. I've known a few folks who bought the perfect boat and discovered that they couldn't actually leave the dock without lining up guest crew. At the risk of sounding like a heretic, have you looked at trawlers? As a few elderly sailors have told me: "There's a trawler in every old sailor's future." Many of them have the fuel economy of a sailboat. Wal ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 11:04:14 -0400 From: Steve Thomas <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??) Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A few random thoughts: 1. A V berth can be great, so long as the boat is not moving. There is no need to crawl over each other, and it is out of the way from the rest of the boat. 2. Any berth occupied by more than one person at a time while underway is not the best for sleeping when the weather picks up. 3. I know a Valiant 40 that has a double quarter berth with a removable board down the middle for use while underway. It is definitely a chore to crawl in and out of, but it makes a comfortable berth in rough seas. Perhaps the same or similar idea could be applied to other "wide area" berths, to make into single sea berths when appropriate. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Richard Walter Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 10:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??) Greetings, As our quest for a more comfortable boat continues, we are finding that one issue continues to be a quandary: how do we sleep? Currently we fill in INDIGO's u-dinette every night and disassemble it every day; it is effective but annoying. Plus we have to climb over each other and the saloon table. We are looking at center cockpit boats, including the Landfall 43s. Many have a centerline berth, which seems optimal. We don't sail at night and don't plan to (so we are not afraid of falling out underway). The transverse and pullman style berths both have the "crawl-over" factor; do we want to keep climbing over each other to get into/out of bed forever? Not really. Pullman seem a little more sleeper-friendly. Anyone want to share their experiences with various styles of aft cabin berths? What do you like/dislike and why? Other boat search factors: we need a functional galley with abundant counter space. We don't race, so PHRF matters not at all. We want good/great sailing with ease of sail handling. This will (hopefully!) be our forever boat, so we want to be planful. Thank you all in advance for your consideration. Richard s/v INDIGO 1978 36-footer Watch Hill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130825/d4 0ecfc9/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 11:09:11 -0400 From: Edd Schillay <[email protected]> To: Richard Walter <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List How to sleep on a boat? (Was: Moving from a C&C??) Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Richard, Take a good look at a C&C 37+ or 37XL. Great centerline queen-sized berth in the aft cabin. Very comfortable. No need to climb over the spouse -- unless you're feeling frisky. All the best, Edd ------------------------------- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B C&C 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com ------------------------------- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.332.1671 | Fax 914.774.9767 | Mobile ------------------------------- Sent via iPhone 5 On Aug 25, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Richard Walter <[email protected]> wrote: Greetings, As our quest for a more comfortable boat continues, we are finding that one issue continues to be a quandary: how do we sleep? Currently we fill in INDIGO's u-dinette every night and disassemble it every day; it is effective but annoying. Plus we have to climb over each other and the saloon table. We are looking at center cockpit boats, including the Landfall 43s. Many have a centerline berth, which seems optimal. We don't sail at night and don't plan to (so we are not afraid of falling out underway). The transverse and pullman style berths both have the "crawl-over" factor; do we want to keep climbing over each other to get into/out of bed forever? Not really. Pullman seem a little more sleeper-friendly. Anyone want to share their experiences with various styles of aft cabin berths? What do you like/dislike and why? Other boat search factors: we need a functional galley with abundant counter space. We don't race, so PHRF matters not at all. We want good/great sailing with ease of sail handling. This will (hopefully!) be our forever boat, so we want to be planful. Thank you all in advance for your consideration. Richard s/v INDIGO 1978 36-footer Watch Hill _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130825/2f 14451b/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ CnC-List mailing list [email protected] http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ------------------------------ End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 91, Issue 88 **************************************** _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected]
