I replaced the portlights on my C&C 33 MKII using plexus MA300 and had no more problem out of them for 3 yrs after when I sold the boat. I do happen to have the Special gun required for the adhesive. A SuperMix II pneumatic gun. I would be willing to sell the gun if anyone needs it.
David Midkiff C & C 30 Joan D Chesapeake, VA -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 11:59 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 92, Issue 25 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Salon Portlight Window Replacement (Joel Aronson) 2. Re: Salon Portlight Window Replacement (Bill Bina) 3. Re: Salon Portlight Window Replacement (Alan Bergen) 4. Re: Salon Portlight Window Replacement (Brent Driedger) 5. Re: Salon Portlight Window Replacement (Bill Bina) 6. Fwd: Tartan Marine Company Announces Strategic Focus On Tartan Yachts (Jerome Tauber) 7. Airmar speed transducers (Fred Hazzard) 8. Salon Portlight Window Replacement (Robert Abbott) 9. Re: Salon Portlight Window Replacement (Jim Bradley) 10. Re: Airmar speed transducers (Ed Levert) 11. Photo Album site (Stu) 12. Re: Portlight Window Replacement - adhesives (Dennis C.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 17:53:48 -0400 From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> To: "billb...@sbcglobal.net" <billb...@sbcglobal.net>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Salon Portlight Window Replacement Message-ID: <-3918899821288379933@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Try interstate plastics. Joel Aronson On Sep 6, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Bill Bina <billb...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: The way to find partial sheets is to shop among places that do plastic fabrication. They always have pieces left over from jobs that they usually sell at a deep discount, especially for particular tints that they feel may not be easy to unload. The leftovers obviously vary from small to quite large, and you take what you can find. What they have available also changes daily, so a place where you strike out on Tuesday, may be the jackpot on Friday. Being there in person is more likely to result in success than casual phone checking. I usually start by calling a few prospective places and feeling them out as to the likelyhood they might have what I want. Then I go to the ones who sounded the most promising. Two very important considerations when choosing a piece of plastic. Is it UV treated? If not, you don't want it regardless of price. The other thing is that CAST acrylic is both stronger and optically clearer and flatter than the cheaper extruded stuff. For thinner stuff, you may have to settle for extruded, but it's worth the effort to try and find cast if at all possible. It really is nicer to look through. Can you tell I've been through this a few times? LOL. Bill Bina On 9/6/2013 5:07 PM, LKL Architects wrote: Tom, Going through the same thing on my 85 LF 39. Have discovered the best replacement is 3/8" polybicarbonate tinted to a bronze color. Smoked grey is another option. The problem is that anything tinted and 3/8" thick is hard to find and most suppliers require you buy a whole sheet. Not sure where you are, but I found a source in Houston. Let me know if you are interested. Lloyd Lippe Finesse 85LF39 Rockport, Texas _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130906/82 c0a9bf/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 17:56:48 -0400 From: Bill Bina <billb...@sbcglobal.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Salon Portlight Window Replacement Message-ID: <522a4fa0.10...@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPhone On 2013-09-06, at 4:56 PM, Bill Bina <billb...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Adhesives are science, not speculation. 3m specifically says 5200 is not suitable for this application. > > Limitations: > (continued) > - 3M? Marine Adhesive/Sealant 5200 is not recommended for the > installation of glass, polycarbonate or acrylic windows that are not > also mechanically fastened with a system designed by the manufacturer. > Inconsistent adhesion of these unprimed substrates, specific design of > the window, and movement due to thermal expansion and flexing, may > cause application failure. It is strongly recommended that the > customer contact the window/port light/hatch manufacturer for > recommendations on proper sealing procedure > > Bill Bina > > On 9/6/2013 5:37 PM, Jerome Tauber wrote: >> As I remarked - there is much debate on the best adhesives to use. I would not rule out 5200 as you want a permanent installation. 5200 offers, good adhesion and excellent water seal. However, there is much advice to use a rigid glue so that the windows become part of the structure of the boat. In my view either would be good for coastal cruising - though a rigid installation is probably the better but more difficult choice. Just my opinion. I used boat life boat seal and never had a problem with it. Use a gun though and a liberal application. Jerry Tauber > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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According to Malbasa the new focus on the Tartan Yachts brand will allow for future growth, new model development and the continued superior customer service that Tartan owners have come to count on. > > Tartan Marine Company's first steps towards this increased focus on the Tartan Yachts brand is to bring the very successful C&C 101 and C&C 115 under the Tartan Yachts brand name. "The introduction of the C&C 101 last year, and the subsequent win as Overall Boat of The Year in Cruising World Magazine, reflect the dedication to performance and craftsmanship that Tartan is known for," said Malbasa. These two models will be transitioned into the Tartan Yachts line as the Tartan 101 and the Tartan 115 and Tartan Marine Company has every confidence that both models current success will only be enhanced by the Tartan Yachts name. > > Tartan Marine Company is committed to implementing best in class processes to enable faster new product development and greater flexibility across its businesses and operations. In line with this, Tartan Marine Company will be introducing a new website later this month that will enhance the buyer and owner experience. "The new web presence was developed with our continued commitment to providing the best owner experience as the primary objective," said Christine Corbissero, Director of Marketing & Customer Satisfaction. Corbissero said that the site offers new features including a dedicated MyTartan owner portal, opportunities to charter a Tartan Yacht and a more robust ecommerce offering. > > Tartan Yachts will also be attending the Newport International Boat Show September 12th -15th featuring an assortment of Tartan Yachts. Visit the Tartan display at dock N-0 to see the new Tartan Fantail Weekender, the Tartan Fantail Daysailor and the Tartan 4000. As part of the dedication to enhancing the Tartan experience, test sails will be scheduled aboard the Tartan Fantail Daysailor for qualified candidates at the show. "The one thing every owner tells us is that nothing else sails like a Tartan. We felt the best way to share this knowledge with interested buyers would be to experience this first hand aboard a test sail at the show," Corbissero said. > > About Tartan Yachts > Throughout the 50-year history of Tartan sailboats, Tartan Yachts has produced boats offering cutting edge technology with head turning good looks. We have done so by staying true to our creed of providing Tartan sailboat owners with a yacht that delivers both luxurious accommodations and safe, well-mannered sailing performance in all conditions. > > At Tartan Yachts we have a passion to deliver the best sailboat owner experience possible. Our commitment to design and engineering is based on total performance. We don't believe that a simple superficial appeal to aesthetics is enough to serve the interests of our owners. Our designers, builders and sales team understand and appreciate that every yacht we build must be the best yacht we build. Most importantly we are committed to the next 50 years with the focus of simply making our customer experience the best the industry has to offer. > > > > ? Copyright 2013 Tartan Marine Company, LLC All rights reserved. > Forward this email > > This email was sent to jrtau...@aol.com by n...@tartan-ccyachts.com | > Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe? | Privacy Policy. > Tartan Marine Company | 1920 Fairport Nursery Rd. | Fairport Harbor | > OH | 44077 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130906/bb ab8fc1/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 10:09:27 -0300 From: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> To: billb...@sbcglobal.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Salon Portlight Window Replacement Message-ID: <522b2587.8080...@eastlink.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" I am not so sure people are 'resistant' to using Plexus to rebed portlights as much as there are other products today that can possibly do the job as well and are easier to use. Plexus requires a special 'gun' to apply the 2-part adhesive which is not readily available to all. And think about how long a windshield remains in place in our automobiles. And the windshields are considered a 'structural' component on vehicles, at least on my Acura TL it is. Last year, I replaced my car windshield and I asked the guys what adhesive they were using to rebed it.......turns out is was a Sikaflex product....the auto glass shop said it was very similar to Sikaflex 295UV except it had a much faster cure time (hours instead of days).....understandable. The reason my portlights were leaking was because the original Plexus had dried out....it was as hard as resin when I was removing it. As with my car windshiled, I am hoping the Sikaflex 295UV doesn't do that on my portlights. I kept a 'step by step' version of my 2010 portlight project if anyone wants it. Bob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2013/09/06 7:38 PM, Bill Bina wrote: > I've never really understood why so many people are resistant to using > Plexus to rebed the portlights on their C&C. The people who designed > the boat didn't pick Plexus out of a hat. They did their homework, and > voted for something they thought was appropriate. TIME has proven that > Plexus was a very good choice. No other alternate has ever been tested > as long, or on as many C&C's as Plexus, although I've read many > reports of failures trying something else just to save a few bucks. > Plexus worked well, and has held up as well or better than any > adhesive could be expected to hold up. If you have an adhesive/sealant > that has lasted 25 years or more ON A BOAT, why on earth would you do > all the work of removal & installation with anything else? Seems like > foolishness to mess with obvious success. Same goes for using Butyl > for the hull/deck joint. It is time-proven more thoroughly than any > other alternative. If Plexus and Butyl were known to be problematic, > or short-lived, I could understand looking for an improvement. > > Bill Bina > > On 9/6/2013 6:13 PM, Brent Driedger wrote: >> Pulling off the old windows can often be the worst part. Unless they >> are falling out already, expect some gelcoat to come with it. Repair >> this properly so the adhesive can grip. >> Plexus was my choice and the agent rented the gun too. It's not >> cheap. Stuff at $35 bucks a cartridge and it took 1.7 to do my 27-5s >> long windows. >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And the windshields are considered a 'structural' component on vehicles, at least on my Acura TL it is. Last year, I replaced my car windshield and I asked the guys what adhesive they were using to rebed it.......turns out is was a Sikaflex product....the auto glass shop said it was very similar to Sikaflex 295UV except it had a much faster cure time (hours instead of days).....understandable. The reason my portlights were leaking was because the original Plexus had dried out....it was as hard as resin when I was removing it. As with my car windshiled, I am hoping the Sikaflex 295UV doesn't do that on my portlights. I kept a 'step by step' version of my 2010 portlight project if anyone wants it. Bob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2013/09/06 7:38 PM, Bill Bina wrote: I've never really understood why so many people are resistant to using Plexus to rebed the portlights on their C&C. The people who designed the boat didn't pick Plexus out of a hat. They did their homework, and voted for something they thought was appropriate. TIME has proven that Plexus was a very good choice. No other alternate has ever been tested as long, or on as many C&C's as Plexus, although I've read many reports of failures trying something else just to save a few bucks. Plexus worked well, and has held up as well or better than any adhesive could be expected to hold up. If you have an adhesive/sealant that has lasted 25 years or more ON A BOAT, why on earth would you do all the work of removal & installation with anything else? Seems like foolishness to mess with obvious success. Same goes for using Butyl for the hull/deck joint. It is time-proven more thoroughly than any other alternative. If Plexus and Butyl were known to be problematic, or short-lived, I could understand looking for an improvement. Bill Bina On 9/6/2013 6:13 PM, Brent Driedger wrote: Pulling off the old windows can often be the worst part. Unless they are falling out already, expect some gelcoat to come with it. Repair this properly so the adhesive can grip. Plexus was my choice and the agent rented the gun too. It's not cheap. Stuff at $35 bucks a cartridge and it took 1.7 to do my 27-5s long windows. _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It needs to be the older 800 series that reads boat speed and temp. Further it needs to be an older unit that is 1 5/8" in diameter. Anybody have an older working unit in your surplus boat gear? Fred Hazzard S/V Fury Portland, OR -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130907/fe 87344c/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 11:36:18 -0400 From: "Stu" <s...@cncphotoalbum.com> To: "C&C Email List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Photo Album site Message-ID: <BEFB85A64BDE4B858F03541F710EDC58@StusNew> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" If it ain?t one damn thing, it?s another. During the past couple of days, the Photo Album site and it?s databases were hacked and compromised. The result was disastrous for a period of time ? my host company found a security breach and shut down the site completely. The hacker added a few scripts (we don?t know how) and flooded the internet with a considerable amount of spam. Now the good part ? the site has been restored to a previous backup and we are back online. My hosting company has realized the problems and feel part of the problem was theirs so they are going to move the site to a more efficient and secure server. Hopefully this will not change the costs associated with the site. So, if you have problems with the site in the next couple of days, do not fret we will be back online soon. This email list was not affected ? it is on another server. Stu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I poked a hole in the "sausage", squeezed out a bead of adhesive and set the lens by holding it in place for 10 minutes. Other boats have glued in ports in the hulls, Catalina for one.? And finally, here are links to pages recommending which 3M product or Life Product to use for different applications.? I suggest bookmarking them. <http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_EU/EU-Marine/MarineSupplies/Soluti ons/BoatRepair/GeneralBoatRepairs/SealantAdhesiveGuide/> <http://cncphotoalbum.com/technical/sealant_usage.htm>? Thanks, Stu Note that 3M suggests 3M 5400FC for bonding plastic windows. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA >________________________________ > From: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> >To: billb...@sbcglobal.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com >Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 8:09 AM >Subject: Stus-List Salon Portlight Window Replacement > > > >I am not so sure people are 'resistant' to using Plexus to rebed portlights as much as there are other products today that can possibly do the job as well and are easier to use.? Plexus requires a special 'gun' to apply the 2-part adhesive which is not readily available to all. > >And think about how long a windshield remains in place in our automobiles.? And the windshields are considered a 'structural' component on vehicles, at least on my Acura TL it is.? Last year, I replaced my car windshield and I asked the guys what adhesive they were using to rebed it.......turns out is was a Sikaflex product....the auto glass shop said it was very similar to Sikaflex 295UV except it had a much faster cure time (hours instead of days).....understandable.? > >The reason my portlights were leaking was because the original Plexus had dried out....it was as hard as resin when I was removing it.? As with my car windshiled, I am hoping the Sikaflex 295UV doesn't do that on my portlights. > >I kept a 'step by step' version of my 2010 portlight project if anyone wants it. > >Bob Abbott >AZURA >C&C 32 - 84 >Halifax, N.S. > > > > > >On 2013/09/06 7:38 PM, Bill Bina wrote: > >I've never really understood why so many people are resistant to using >Plexus to rebed the portlights on their C&C. The people who designed >the boat didn't pick Plexus out of a hat. They did their homework, and >voted for something they thought was appropriate. TIME has proven that >Plexus was a very good choice. No other alternate has ever been tested >as long, or on as many C&C's as Plexus, although I've read many reports >of failures trying something else just to save a few bucks. Plexus >worked well, and has held up as well or better than any adhesive could >be expected to hold up. If you have an adhesive/sealant that has lasted >25 years or more ON A BOAT, why on earth would you do all the work of >removal & installation with anything else? Seems like foolishness to >mess with obvious success. Same goes for using Butyl for the hull/deck >joint. It is time-proven more thoroughly than any other alternative. If >Plexus and Butyl were known to be problematic, or short-lived, I could understand looking for an improvement. >> >>Bill Bina >> >>On 9/6/2013 6:13 PM, Brent Driedger wrote: >> >>Pulling off the old windows can often be the worst part. Unless they are falling out already, expect some gelcoat to come with it. ?Repair this properly so the adhesive can grip.? >>>Plexus was my choice and the agent rented the gun too. It's not cheap. Stuff at $35 bucks a cartridge and it took 1.7 to do my 27-5s long windows.? >>> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >_______________________________________________ >This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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