I'm not sure if I said this before, but if the solenoid firing problem can be 
traced to the wire from the switch to the solenoid, I suggest first looking at 
the connection plug in the engine harness. Eliminate the  connectors by making 
crimped connections for each wire in the harness. If the wire itself is bad, 
run a new wire. Putting in a relay is a band aid solution. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On Sep 28, 2013, at 14:17, "Fred Hazzard" <[email protected]> wrote:

Jonathan:
 
Interesting advice on sailing a 44 offshore.   I am leaving in 2 weeks to sail 
to Mexico for the winter.  
 
Can you tell me more about the inside tank venting valves?   I found 2 caps 
from the previous owner in a bag saying vent caps.   While I could use them how 
would I vent the tanks?
 
I am also interested in the relay you put in the starter circuit.  I have just 
experienced a starting problem.   Wouldn’t start,  waited awhile and started 
right up.   What relay did you use and how was it wired?
 
Any other wisdom you can pass along will be appreciated.
 
Thanks
 
Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland, Or
 
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Boocock
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mor Child's Play
 
Richard, 
Thanks for the kind words regarding the trip. Its great to hear of people who 
read the blog.
For the type of sailing/cruising we were doing I feel as though the C&C 44 is 
nearly ideal.
We like to sail and sail fast where possible.
Most people enter the Caribbean from the US east coast in the BVI or St Martin 
unless you island hop along the thorny path. In any case the other islands are 
an upwind slog going east. I am shocked at how many people we talked to motor 
sail for the majority of their eastern passages, clearly because they have 
boats that don't sail upwind. Like all C&C's our boat is a joy to sail upwind.
I have been very pleased with using an old racer/cruiser as a strong, excellent 
sailing, cruising boat. Clearly we don't have the same interior space as other 
boats in the same size range but we found the accommodations adequate for the 
five of us (myself/wife/3 university aged kids).
The addition of solar panels over the large dodger (we have a significant 
bridge deck) and the wind gen. meant we never had to run the engine for power 
at sea or at anchor.
 
For really rough weather I had an inner forestay (tied into the 2 forward 
bulkheads) and storm jib ready to go. We didn't need it for storm conditions 
although I know Turicum (C&C 44 based in Vancouver) have used the same 
configuration as their offshore sail arrangement for many (8?) Vic-Maui 
offshore races/return passages.
 
As we are all aware the late IOR era hull shape can be a handfull in large 
following seas although our Raymarine autopilot handled it well. If you recall 
from the blogs we actually sheared the Edson aluminum autopilot tiller arm in 
two in a nasty storm on a passage to St Kitts and Nevis.
 
Next time I need to find a way to remove some weight from the bow for passages. 
Carrying a 25kg Rocna, 20kg Bruce and over 200 ft of chain in the anchor locker 
of a boat with not enough buoyancy up front meant we had a fairly significant 
bow down trim. It never really affected our sailing significantly but it always 
bothered me. When we sail on the Great Lakes we use 50' of chain on each anchor 
and that would be sufficient for any of the places we anchored in the 
Caribbean/Bahamas/Bermuda. 
 
Two (of many) hints I got from C&C 40 owner David Risch were to seal the anchor 
locker from taking on water when the bow submerges and to have a system to vent 
the water tank internally. I have some valves that allow us to easily switch 
between venting internally or externally. It was interesting to see not one but 
two "blue water" Island Packets with salt water contaminated water tanks, the 
only good water being in jerry cans on deck when we arrived in Bermuda. All 
three of our tanks were fine. 
 
As for future plans, I want to go down south next year although my wife doesn't 
like the long offshore passages so I will probably rely on a crew to get the 
boat south.I would like to follow that up with a summer in the Med and the 
following winter back in the Caribbean but we will have to see.....
Its starting to get cold in Canada now, I wish we were heading south right now.
 
Wrt your starting problem. We always had an intermittent starting problem that 
sometimes resulted in requiring up to 5 tries to get the engine to start. We 
put up with it because the engine always started but it gradually got worse. In 
Hampton on the way south I bought a spare starter motor although the mechanic I 
talked to said that the wiring to the solenoid is insufficient (ie high 
resistance) on many Yanmars and really requires a relay.
We lived with the intermittent starting problem until we got back to Annapolis 
on our way north when it stopped working completely. I installed the new 
starter and it made no difference. The solution was to put a relay in the 
starter circuit. The wiring is not sufficient to drive enough current into the 
solenoid. Ever since the relay was installed we have had no issues.
It sounds like this may be your problem, its at least worth checking....
 
Jon
 
 
 
 
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