Always thought a smaller headsail will point higher than a big one? 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Risch" <davidrisc...@msn.com> 
To: "CNC CNC" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 10:54:15 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 34 


Rob Ball told me to not let the 40 get beyond 22 degrees of heel. 

That plus I will not let the rudder go beyond 5 degrees of angle. 

Off the wind less heel is easier on all aboard and faster. Racing uphill I push 
the upper limit of that number by keeping the biggest headsail for pointing. 

All sail configs follow suit. 

I doubt that figure is universal but it may help. 

David F. Risch 
1981 40-2 
(401) 419-4650 (cell) 



> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:28:45 -0300 
> From: robertabb...@eastlink.ca 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> CC: oldste...@sympatico.ca 
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 34 
> 
> Steve: 
> 
> I am going to throw one at the list that should raise some controversy. 
> There was a C&C 34 at our club....the owner was a coastal cruiser, felt 
> the boat was a little tender for that purpose so he had a 'shoe added to 
> the keel' . 
> 
> We were both in Halifax harbor....about 18 to 20 knts true and 3' 
> seas.....I only had my 110% Sobstad up and he had a larger headsail (I 
> count not be sure if it was a 135% or 150%) and his main sail. 
> 
> The wind was building.....he was coming in, I was going out. When we 
> passed each other, he turned around to come back with me upwind. 
> .....his boat was overpowered......flogging his main.....rounding up in 
> the gusts. 
> 
> I constantly pulled away from him.....he hung in for about 20 minutes 
> and then gave up. 
> 
> I can't speak for the 34 but my boat can not carry a 150% (plus a main) 
> in 20 knts true. 
> 
> Let the fun begin. 
> 
> Bob Abbott\ 
> AZURA 
> C&C 32 - 84 
> Halifax, N.S. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2013/10/07 10:23 PM, OldSteveH wrote: 
> > That's a great list Dennis. I do most of those things but forgot about 
> > moving the genoa sheet aft, that's a good one. 
> > The other thing I do which is not on your list is to feather off the main 
> > and carry some luff when we're overpowered, re-trimming as opportunity 
> > allows. From now on I will ease the genoa car back first. 
> > 
> > Per other comment about heel the 34 seems to be comfortable carrying 20 
> > degrees of heel and still point and keep up her speed. Guestimating the 
> > performance at 25 to be similar to 15, I have generally decided to reef 
> > when 
> > I am constantly over 25 and there are no more sail trim adjustments 
> > available. 
> > 
> > Last Sat we were able to keep the #1 up in 20 knots true (25-26 apparent). 
> > I'm certain we could not have placed as well without it. BTW only 4 aboard, 
> > not much railmeat to help out! 
> > 
> > Dennis, I have an inboard track and also a coach roof track for the #3. 
> > I'm not seeing what advantage leading the #1 from the toerail will give 
> > except to limit how close the sail can be sheeted, but also taking away my 
> > ability to adjust the car position. 
> > 
> > Steve Hood 
> > S/V Diamond Girl 
> > C&C 34 
> > Lions Head ON 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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