If you are a US Sailing member, you can drill down even further and see all of the ratings for the various PHRF regions that are used as the basis for the High/Low/Mean rating table.
Rick Brass From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Centerboard models //offshore.ussailing.org - start there and you will get something about PHRF website with high, low and median ratings. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Joel Aronson <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:46 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Centerboard models Gary What is the website? On Tuesday, October 22, 2013, Gary Nylander wrote: The national PHRF database shows a 35-3 with an average PHRF at 117 and the CB version at 129. You should be talking to your local PHRF gurus. Gary Nylander ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Centerboard models I am a little surprised that the cb model has the same PHRF as non-cb. At least with my 90s era keel/cb vs the fin keel, we rate a higher. Further, in a reasonable breeze (>6-8 knots), we point with all the go fast boats with the board down and good sails. Downwind, we hold our own in such breezes by raising the board and are seldom rolled. In light air, we suffer downwind dragging a keel/cb trunk about 12 inches thick thru the water! Upwind we also suffer, but the pain is less since at least we still point with the go fast boats (as we fall behind!). Charlie Nelson Water Phantom C&C 36 XL/kcb 1995 [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');> -----Original Message----- From: Joel Aronson <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');> > To: cnc-list <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');> > Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 3:13 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Halyards Harold, I switched to all rope (VPC) using the same sheaves with no issues over 2 seasons. If weight were an issue I would go with Dyneema with a cover for the clutch. The PHRF ratings are the same for the 2 models. I've never sailed against a c/b model. (I need to race Chef Dave next year!) I would think that with the board down you would point well. Maybe the main (like many of us) has lost its shape over the years? Joel 35/3 1983 Annapolis On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:27 PM, patricia barkley-higginbottom <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');> > wrote: Have wire to rope halyards exclusively on my 35-3 1986 . What are the disadvantages, since it seems most people , when they have to , change to rope of various types. One I can think of is end to ending when there is wear, and also less weight aloft, although how much difference that makes on a relatively heavy boat I dont know. I club race white sail and will have to change fairly soon because of wear at the jammers and beginnings of fraying of the wire. I would tend to go with wire to rope again partly because of the type of sheaves presently employed so need a strong reason to change. While I am on the site, anyone with a 35-3 full keel who races against a 35-3 with keel centreboard have any idea of performance comparisons between them. My boat is a centre board version. We do well enough, feel that we do not point as high as other boats in our PHRF fleet especially in heavier air, no other 35-3s in that fleet, but we run well and often overhaul boats that may have got to the windward mark before us. Harold Celtic Spirit 35-3 1986 _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');> -- Joel 301 541 8551 _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');> _____ _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'[email protected]');> -- Joel 301 541 8551 _____ _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected]
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