The Milwaukee line of cordless tools has served me very well for the last two 
years. The 12v small drill is exceptional and fits well in tool bags. 

Rich

> On Nov 8, 2013, at 13:16, "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> I got soured on Dewalt cordless products years ago.  Got tired of the 
> batteries dying.  Now use Makita products and love them.  Still like Dewalt 
> corded tools, however.
> 
> If you want the best, get a Metabo.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, November 8, 2013 10:48 AM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Another point.  I've always liked battery powered Drill/drivers.  Started w 
> 9V, then 12V, then 14V, then 18V.
> 
> Work bought me a DeWalt Kit that has little 12V drill/drivers w lithium-ion 
> batteries.  Even though they are smaller, they have more torque than my 
> older, bigger, bulkier 18V Ryobi.  The newer batteries last longer and hold a 
> charge for months riding in my truck.  Amazingly reliable.  Now I keep a 
> driver, a set of bits and set of tips and small sockets in my car, and they 
> make jobs so-o easy, I think everyone should have one.
> 
> Removing all the floorboards of a 30 footer with a battery powered driver and 
> the right tip would take less than 15 minutes.
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
> From: "Chuck S" <cscheaf...@comcast.net>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 11:24:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchoring floorboards - was Re:  floorboards
> 
> Home Depot and Lowes stock square drive (Robertson) fasteners here in the US. 
>  
> I have several assorted tip kits that fit a battery powered drill/driver or a 
> common 4 in 1 hand driver.  The kits include straight, phillips, square, 
> torx, allen.  Harbor Freight sells tools cheap enough, you can setup a 
> "common driver" and keep one on the boat, one in the car and one at home.  
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
> From: "Steve Thomas" <sthom...@sympatico.ca>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 11:07:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchoring floorboards - was Re:  floorboards
> 
> "common driver"
>  
> Robertson head screws are common here.
> Don't know why they never caught on in the States.
>  
> Steve
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Indigo
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 10:52 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchoring floorboards - was Re: floorboards
> 
> If the objective is to be able to get the floorboards up quickly, I would be 
> very reluctant to use any fastening that can't  be undone with a common  
> driver ( kept in my case in the top drawer of the chart table) or with no 
> tools at all
> 
> My 2cents fwiw
> 
> Jonathan
> Indigo
> 
> --
> Jonathan
> Indigo C&C 35III
> SOUTHPORT CT
> 
> On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:05, Steve Thomas <sthom...@sympatico.ca>  wrote:
> 
> Robertson head screws are much less likely to deform so that you can't remove 
> them, so long as you don't use an undersize screwdriver. You are less likely 
> to have to resort to some sort of alternate extraction device with Robertson 
> head screws. They are way better than Phillips or slot heads in transferring 
> torque from the screwdriver to the screw. In my opinion they are better in 
> all applications except for assembly line work, where speed of assembly is 
> the overriding concern, and where the engineers don't care if it is later 
> difficult to remove them. The only thing I would do is make sure that they 
> are stainless or bronze, and check them once in a while if you are concerned 
> that they will fill up with dirt. That is not something that is likely to 
> happen quickly.
>  
> Virtually every screw used to fasten anything that is connected to the hull 
> of my boat has required re-tightening at some time. There must be a lot of 
> flexing going on that is not obvious when actually sailing the boat.
>  
> Steve Thomas
> 1978 C&C MKIII
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of M Bod
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:11 AM
> To: C&C list
> Subject: Stus-List Anchoring floorboards - was Re: floorboards
> 
> This discussion leads me to a question. 
> 
> Looking at the CS 30 I had a really tough time getting under the floorboards 
> - the Robertson head screws were full of dirt an it was very difficult to get 
> many of the screws out. 
> I had to use a little dental tool I'd brought with me to gouge the dirt out 
> of each hole to make space for the screwdriver head. 
> I'd hate to be trying to do that if I was in an emergency that necessitated 
> access!
> 
> Any better suggestions? Would you    just go with a slot screw? Any better 
> ideas - still seems to me you might be frantically trying to find a problem 
> and the sheer number of screws could be overwhelming. 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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