Red brass is ok, but about the only things made from it in common plumbing are 
chrome plated and bare pipe nipples. The term "red
brass" may refer to a couple of different alloys, but all have around 85% 
copper. It is really a type of bronze as far as I am
concerned, and all bronzes look redder in colour than yellow brass due to the 
higher copper content. Anyway, you can tell if a
threaded fitting or pipe is red brass by the reddish yellow colour of the 
machined surface of the threads.

Fully machined ordinary household and automotive plumbing fittings are made 
from yellow brass, which is not suitable for sea
water. Most cast valves are made from bronze, gate valves in particular, and 
they are ok from a corrosion standpoint. You can't
assume that a compression type valve is all bronze unless the manufacturer says 
so. Some have brass valve stems and cast bronze
bodies. All bronzes have more copper content than yellow brass, and the freshly 
cut metal is redder in colour.

I worked for a few years in the 1970s as a setup-operator on screw machines and 
various other machinery engaged in the manufacture
of above said objects. MASCO, Delta, Brass Craft, EMCO, Plumb Shop, Waltech, 
and a few more I can't remember, are all brands owned
by the same company and manufactured in the same facilities in my home town.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Joel Aronson
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 3:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stus-List Marine Plumbing


Josh


No brass!  Bronze only.
I have qest fittings also. No one has questioned them.
I would not use Marelon. Many will disagree.

Joel


On Thursday, December 19, 2013, Josh Muckley wrote:

  Ok folks here's one I hope sparks a fury of conversation.

  My boat is outfitted almost entirely with the original fresh water plumbing, 
"qest" grey tubing and compression fittings.  I
have heard that it is an accident waiting to happen.   That it used to be used 
for homes and is now no longer available due to its
unreliability.  What should I replace it with?  Just regular old household 
plumbing from the hardware store?

  What guidance is there regarding the waste water and through hull fittings?  
All of my through-hulls are marelon, which i
understand is pretty popular.  Unfortunately the PO also used a mix if white 
and grey pvc in various places throughout the
seawater systems.  I've heard that doing that has been known to sink boats.

  He also used white PVC for various holding tank fittings is that ok or should 
it be replaced?

  What are the rules about brass, red brass, and bronze?

  Let the fury being!

  Thanks,
  Josh Muckley
  S/V Sea Hawk
  1989 C&C 37+
  Solomons, MD



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