US$7k for parts would be a LOT for a 40hp Universal.
In 2010 I bought a Universal M35B bobtail (complete engine without transmission), 36hp 4 cylinder engine an exhaust riser, and a few other miscellaneous parts from the Universal/Westerbeke distributor in Norfolk for $6300 including taxes and freight. Since I was replacing an older M35, I already had a transmission. The bobtail engine plus $750 labor for installation was actually less than the other options I considered, which were parts for a rebuild (about $35-3700) plus machine shop and labor time) or a new long block ($44-4500 plus labor to switch out stuff from the old engine and install the new one). And after 2 years, when I found a cracked flange for one of the rear engine mounts, Westerbeke sent me a new bell housing plus paid $800 of the repair labor. I wouldn't think 5 or 6 thousand hours on the Universal engine would be anything to worry about if there is evidence of proper maintenance having been done, and the equipment on the boat (like wind steering) makes me suspect the PO was a cruiser and likely to have been knowledgable. If you do come to engine work, be sure to consider all of your options. Rick Brass From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Thomas Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 1:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C (1990) gelcoat epoxy adhesion & V40 Yeah I noticed the things Jim mentioned, and more, but I liked motion of the Valiant 40 on passages better than the C&C designed Baltic 39. The V40 has many features that make it a desirable cruiser. Nuff said on that. This particular boat was listed for several months at US$ 65.9k and was reduced in price only in the last week. I am definitely not one of the 1%, so for me it is worth a close look. It would at least be a lot of work but the mandatory boat bucks would depend mostly on underlying condition as far as I can see. The owner is away doing a delivery but I did talk to the broker. There is a soft deck spot that needs attention along the port genoa track according to him. That plus a stove and new instruments would be the starting point from what I know so far, but you really can't judge a boat until you take a close look as far as I'm concerned. I would rather not have to overhaul the engine, but parts for Universals are less expensive for parts than some. A friend of mine just completed a complete DIY rebuild in Jacksonville, and it cost him US$ 7k for parts. There are deals to be had if you are handy. A friend of mine bought a Whitby 42 for US$ 22.5k last summer. His C&C 38 which has twice taken him and his wife from Lake Erie to the Bahamas, is up for sale. Might actually be a better deal at C$ 39k, but Valiants do fetch a higher price than C&Cs for boats of similar size and condition. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Russ & Melody Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C (1990) gelcoat epoxy adhesion & V40 Oh! I was going to say, "That one won't last long." (Maybe we're both right :) Cheers, Russ At 07:25 AM 31/12/2013, you wrote: Let me see...original engine, hours unknown...owner-modified with two extra hatches in coachroof...stove replaced with a very large garbage can...and an asking price less than half of the next cheapest V40 out there. What could possibly go wrong? On 30 December 2013 21:44, Steve Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: It is a Valiant 40 that is giving me the old come hither look. http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1977/Uniflite-Valiant-2645427/Newport/RI/Uni ted-States#.UsHZXvtuBzP Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII
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