True, Don. and depending on how far away I am, I to doubt I'd find Bermuda,
so on to my destination...unless I had a portable radio I could make use as
a makeshift RDF, or was within 50 miles and could get Bermuda Radio to give
me a bearing on my VHF signal.

Given all the crap I have to pack on these trips, not having to take a
sextant along--and get it through security without some bozo TSA agent
picking it up by the arm and then getting it in the overhead bin without it
being banged around, etc.--saves a lot of trouble.

 I can use a hand-bearing compass to tell whether someone's gaining or
losing


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Don Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Run up the coast from Florida to NY and you will be 100 miles offshore.
> I wouldn't want to try to find Bermuda with DR only.
>
> If your DR is current then you should be OK for most coastal runs. But it
> is so easy to learn basic sun sights and the sextant is such a great tool
> for racing on longer courses. 30 seconds tells if you are gaining or
> loosing on a competitor and many other uses.
>
>
> Don Newman
> C&C 44
>
> On Jan 15, 2014, at 16:21, Curtis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hold on Don, I'm new to the world of sailing. I would like to learn all
> that I can as soon as I can. I have spent a great many hours looking up
> stuff on Google and U-tube. But very little time on sex-tents I want to and
> will learn how they did it back in the OLD day. I don't think I will be
> freaking out to make a coastal run from Charleston to say St Augustine
> without knowing how to read the stars. I mean really?  If you are doing
> long passage's. sure. But the most of us are not going to Spain via the
> Philippians. I have a new Garmin echo50s for Christmas and I now have a
> back up Garmin 215 and A Garmin battery operated 76s. I feel safe with
> this. I do keep soft plugs and a rubber hammer.
> Just saying its good to feel this way. Nobody likes change. My dad was
> like this about his type writer. Said the ned word processors would kill
> the writer. and work will be lost. Bla, Bla,.Bla
> My ¢
>
>
> Cheers
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Don Newman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Absolutely right Martin.
>>
>> Too many years ago we were delivering a Landfall 48 from the Lyford Key
>> to New York. A new boat that had been south one winter with all the latest
>> toys.  Loran, course computer, radar etc.  The guys were giving me the
>> gears about not needing my sextant.
>>
>> The first waves out of port washed the decks and ran through the deck
>> Prism into the electronics bay, by the 4th wave everything was out.  I
>> pulled out the sextant and said "This still works".
>>
>> Even today, with everyone having two spare GPSs in their pockets and
>> another on their watch, I wouldn't go offshore without it.  A close
>> lightning strike and all electronics on the boat could be taken out. I
>> can't believe that some people don't even keep a DR log up to date updated
>> with regular GPS fixes.  How else could you tell if you are getting strange
>> values from the magic box?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Martin DeYoung 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>  >>… found none of the boats electronics working.<<
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I still carry a lead line, paper charts, battery operated GPS and VHF,
>>> and a sextant if going offshore.  I rarely carry my very old school Walker
>>> Taffrail Log but I have been looking for a 70’s Heathkit RDF to add to my
>>> old boat stuff museum.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Back in ’93 I was skipper on a delivery (Hawaii to Seattle) on a custom
>>> 46’ sloop.  A day or so out of Honolulu the engine ceased to function.
>>>  When trouble shooting we found the owner had incorrectly wired a new
>>> battery into the bank in such a way that only 1 small starting battery was
>>> charged.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The winds were un-characteristically light for early September making
>>> the choice to carry on vs. a downwind trip back to Hawaii the lessor of two
>>> weevils.  To conserve the very limited 12 volt supply on board I shut
>>> everything off.  Lights, nav gear, water pumps etc.  The crew grumbled but
>>> all became much better “by feel” sailors, especially at night.  I did have
>>> a AA battery powered GPS that I turned on once a day for a fix.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After a few days of very creative engine repairs including making our
>>> own replacement valve springs.  We used the sheet winches to turn the
>>> engine over (think a lawnmower pull starter) to save 12 volt power for one
>>> engine start attempt.  We did get the engine to run on 3 cylinders to
>>> charge 12 V batteries and chill the refrig and freezer.  We could motor at
>>> slow speed in flat water.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Experiences like that one reinforce the habit of keeping old school
>>> navigation equipment and charts/books on board whenever going any place
>>> interesting or where the charts state “here there be monsters”.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> Calypso
>>>
>>> 1971 C&C 43
>>>
>>> Seattle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *
>>> Curtis
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:10 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Redundent instrumentation / tools
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I love the fact that I will have some back up;s to back ups. Plus paper
>>> charts and hand held Garmin 76 It gives me comfort to know that when done
>>> with this process I will now all of my equipment. Before i sail.
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
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