I have a 1978 Baltic 39/C&C (Rob Ball) and I need some help locating cable connectors for my Furuno radar model 821/841. I want to put a quick disconnect were the cable comes out of the mast. I stupidly cut the cable to get the radar off of the mast which was laying on horses in the yard last year during Sandy. Too much action, not enough thinking. I soldered the cable ends together this spring, but probably did not get the coax right with its very fine stranded wire core and so no picture.
Any advice on locating connectors or suggestions like, just replace the whole cable, or replace the whole radar would be welcome. I have a nice set of 10 year old B&G instruments tied into a Navman GPS which all works fine, but the resolution of the display on the Navman is fairly coarse by current standards. Do you think I should be putting together a more modern system with radar, instruments, and GPS all tied together. Which of probably means all new instruments. I also have a Muir 24 volt VFF 1050/2200 vertical windlass with a seized motor due to salt corrosion from a somewhat careless installation by the PO. I have checked and the cost of a new motor is about $1,000. I would appreciate any advice on this aspect. I currently have 3/8 BBB chain, 80 ft with another 200 ft of 1/2 triple strand. I am currently coastal cruising while I do a refit of the boat in preparation for blue water cruising. This year new rod and teak. Last year I replaced the running rigging, refrigeration, and stripped and barrier coated the bottom. The motor, Yanmar 3YM30 with sail drive is 10 years old with about 800 hours on it. During the season I am going to replace the holding tank and head plumbing. The sails will come last as what I have works fine for the coastal cruising we are doing now. This is a big, but fun project. I just pulled out interior panels to get at the deck fittings in preparation for the new teak. I am pulling the chain plates to have them surveyed. The good part of this is that the more I dig the more confidence I have in the boat because the underlying structure is in such good shape and stoutly built. I have a spreadsheet with all of the work being done and costs and also started a power point slide show. I would be happy to share this as requested via my regular email. John Maturo Ashe, Baltic 39 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 4:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 96, Issue 131 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 (dwight) 2. Re: Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 (Petar Horvatic) 3. Re: Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 (Frederick G Street) 4. Re: Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints (Rick Brass) 5. Re: Chartplotter Question (Marek Dziedzic) 6. Re: was storing handheld gps ..radios etc. now off topic (Rich Knowles) 7. Re: Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 (Pierre Tremblay) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 16:04:00 -0400 From: "dwight" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 Message-ID: <01331A729FBA42F49334B9FE7D71B75D@your4dacd0ea75> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Yes I know that, but I was just wondering if people have 100% leak free installation from the holes used to install the tracks for life of boat. Point is maybe it could be a good time to take the tracks off, clean things up and reinstall complete with new cars?I know don?t fix what ain?t broke, especially if it?s a hard fix _____ From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: January 20, 2014 3:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 You don?t install the tracks. Use the existing tracks and use the new cars on the old tracks. (my tracks are 1977 - I assume - and they still don't leak!) sam :-) From: dwight <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: ?Monday?, ?January? ?20?, ?2014 ?12?:?42? ?PM To: [email protected] So do most people get away with installing these tracks and never have leaks. With all the associated holes through the deck it would be very fortunate to never experience leaking and with the liners in C&C boats that leaking can be well hidden. _____ From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: January 20, 2014 3:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 I have the setup that is photo #2 on my 38. Guido at Garhauer will machine the cars so they fit on the Merriman H track you have already. No need to convert to more modern T track, with all the hassles of changing. Among other things, T track has greater spacing between the mounting screws than H track had, so if you remove the H track, you need to over drill and fill all of the holes with epoxy to seal the deck, and then over drill, fill, and drill holes for the new track plus make new aluminum backing plates or modify the existing plate to fit. New track is a real PITA, and the Garhauer ball bearing cars work really well on the H track. Plus Guido did the modified cars for my installation at no extra cost. I would imagine he will do the same for you. I chose car #2 vs. car #3 because it offers a greater range of flexibility when the car is forward and you are broad reaching. Car style #3 is a bigger sheave and it makes it possible to put two sheets through the sheave, thus making sail changes easier. I have roller furling, so change the sheets almost never (at least the ones on the headsail). At $300 per side, these are a real value and a pleasure to use in comparison to the old pin stop cars. If you want to take a poll on the list about the quality, service, and value of the Garhauer hardware in comparison to Harken or other brands, I don?t think you will find anyone who has Garhauer stuff to make a bad comment. It is a little heavier than Harken, but costs half as much and is just a functional. And of what consequence is a couple of ounces on a boat that weighs in at close to 15,000 pounds anyway? Rick Brass Imzadi -1976 C&C 38 mk1 la Belle Aurore -1975 C&C 25 mk1 Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Petar Horvatic Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 12:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 Hi, has anyone looked into getting an adjustable(re-tractable) geona car system for an old style C&C genoa tracks? By adjustable I mean something like this, but components would have to be compatible with the C&C style genoa track.. http://www.southernseasmarine.com.au/image/cache/data/EZ%20Glide-500x500.jpg Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 C&C 38MkII Newport, RI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140120/5e0ff2ad/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:06:23 -0500 From: "Petar Horvatic" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 Message-ID: <01a901cf161b$19052790$4b0f76b0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Rick, thanks for the details, and thanks everyone. I am definitely going to talk to Guido. Rick are you referring to E-Z Glide on Garhauer website. Car 2 being $302.50 E-Z G-UB, and Car 3 being $363.00 E-Z G-3? Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 C&C 38MkII Newport, RI From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 2:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 You don?t install the tracks. Use the existing tracks and use the new cars on the old tracks. (my tracks are 1977 - I assume - and they still don't leak!) sam :-) From: dwight <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: ?Monday?, ?January? ?20?, ?2014 ?12?:?42? ?PM To: [email protected] So do most people get away with installing these tracks and never have leaks. With all the associated holes through the deck it would be very fortunate to never experience leaking and with the liners in C&C boats that leaking can be well hidden. _____ From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: January 20, 2014 3:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 I have the setup that is photo #2 on my 38. Guido at Garhauer will machine the cars so they fit on the Merriman H track you have already. No need to convert to more modern T track, with all the hassles of changing. Among other things, T track has greater spacing between the mounting screws than H track had, so if you remove the H track, you need to over drill and fill all of the holes with epoxy to seal the deck, and then over drill, fill, and drill holes for the new track plus make new aluminum backing plates or modify the existing plate to fit. New track is a real PITA, and the Garhauer ball bearing cars work really well on the H track. Plus Guido did the modified cars for my installation at no extra cost. I would imagine he will do the same for you. I chose car #2 vs. car #3 because it offers a greater range of flexibility when the car is forward and you are broad reaching. Car style #3 is a bigger sheave and it makes it possible to put two sheets through the sheave, thus making sail changes easier. I have roller furling, so change the sheets almost never (at least the ones on the headsail). At $300 per side, these are a real value and a pleasure to use in comparison to the old pin stop cars. If you want to take a poll on the list about the quality, service, and value of the Garhauer hardware in comparison to Harken or other brands, I don?t think you will find anyone who has Garhauer stuff to make a bad comment. It is a little heavier than Harken, but costs half as much and is just a functional. And of what consequence is a couple of ounces on a boat that weighs in at close to 15,000 pounds anyway? Rick Brass Imzadi -1976 C&C 38 mk1 la Belle Aurore -1975 C&C 25 mk1 Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Petar Horvatic Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 12:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 Hi, has anyone looked into getting an adjustable(re-tractable) geona car system for an old style C&C genoa tracks? By adjustable I mean something like this, but components would have to be compatible with the C&C style genoa track.. http://www.southernseasmarine.com.au/image/cache/data/EZ%20Glide-500x500.jpg Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 C&C 38MkII Newport, RI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140120/083968c4/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 14:12:15 -0600 From: Frederick G Street <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Doesn?t everybody keep a supply of this on their boats?? :^) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Jan 20, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Andrew Burton <[email protected]> wrote: > "And their people are supper to work with." > > Now we're eating vendors? I don't know what this list is coming to. > > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140120/5e7805ad/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:17:59 -0500 From: "Rick Brass" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints Message-ID: <00f701cf161c$b7004fa0$2500eee0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I stand corrected. So there are three categories: 1) If you have the capability of a cellular connection, you also have a GPS capability. Actual cellular connection is not required. Apple, and everyone else, sells devices in this category. 2) You can buy a Wi-Fi capable tablet with a GPS option, but not from Apple. 3) Wi-Fi only devices, without GPS from Apple and everyone else. I was not aware of any devices in category 2. Wish I had been. I actually prefer the $175 Sony tablet I have to the iPad I was given last month. But it does not have cellular capability or a GPS, neither of which I thought I would need when I bought it a year or so ago. Now I?m interested in running Active Captain when cruising on the boat, and for that you need to have a GPS. So I received the iPad as a present to facilitate what I want to do. Had I known about category 2 or had the foresight to think about navigation apps that would be an alternative to the 2 GPS plotters and the laptop on the boat, I would have bought a waterproof Samsung tablet with a GPS instead of the Sony. Heck, the waterproof Samsung might just be less expensive than the Otter Box for the iPad. Rick Brass From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 12:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints It is an ?Apple thing?. The E911 regulations required only that if you can make a call, the 911 operator could locate you. This means that if you have a cellular connection (e.g. 3G/4G connectivity), you have to have a GPS position, as well. But this did not prevent anyone from installing a GPS radio without the cellular radio present. There are numerous tablets that are Wi-Fi only and have GPS built in. This just happened that Apple chose not to sell a unit like that. Marek ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:36:22 -0500 From: "Rick Brass" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints Message-ID: <02a801cf1580$07041920$150c4b60$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It's probably moot to say it at this point (I've been away for the past few days and not doing e mail) but it's not really and "Apple" thing, it's a regulation thing. A few years ago a regulation kicked in that any device/phone capable of connecting with cell phone service had to have a GPS built in. I had to upgrade a phone with which I was perfectly happy. The reason given was that it facilitated the E911 system, so the operators would know where you were in an emergency. Can't say why it applies to iPads and tablets, but if you have a Nook, Kindle, iPad, android tablet, or whatever that can connect through a cell tower it has a GPS built in, and the GPS functions even if not connected to cell service. Now I find that many local 911 systems have never bought the software needed to view the location information on a cell phone call. I guess it was a requirement so the NSA could better monitor our various subversive activities. From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Reinardy Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints Rich, It's an Apple thing. WiFi only models don't have a true GPS. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140120/8305dc5d/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:54:11 -0500 From: "Marek Dziedzic" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Chartplotter Question Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You can still use MapSource for planning your trip (if you have PC-based charts like the old BlueChart) and then transfer routes and waypoints using an SD card to the new chartplotter. The unit will integrate your (user) data with the map installed in the unit (I have BC G2). The unfortunate thing is that having fully legitimate BlueChart G2 map I cannot use this map for planning the trip with Map Source (or some other s/w) (or I am unaware of how one could do that). It used to be that MapSource was included with any map (chart) purchase from Garmin. But it seems that MapSource is being sunset by Garmin (it might have something to do with a fact that the PC based charts were substantially easier to hack-unlock than anything else). Marek ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 14:40:36 -0500 From: "Rick Brass" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Chartplotter Question Message-ID: <00b601cf1617$7e27f340$7a77d9c0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Older Garmin plotters used MapSource for updates to map data. When you bought MapSource you got chart data to amplify the base map installed on the unit from the factory. You could do route planning, etc, on your PC and then transfer data to the unit. My older 130, 160, 1nd 168 units on the two boats (plus the hand held GPS) all used MapSource, and I think you could install the charts, once unlocked, on 3 devices. MapSource is no longer supported for older units like my 130, 160, 1nd 168. The last charts available are circa 2008. My new Garmin plotter sounders all came standard with Blue Chart chart data installed for the US, Canada, and the Bahamas. There is an upgrade available called Blue Chart G2 which does thing like routing for you (you put in draft and mast height for your boat and it routes you around shoals on the chart and away from overhead obstructions) and lets you display a 3-D sonar image looking ahead of the boat. G2 charts are extra cost, but the regular Blue Chart information is included ? no more base maps to upgrade in order to have charts. You get free updates for the chart information for one year. Homeport is the software that works with the Blue Charts for route planning on a PC, and also for putting Active Captain information into the plotter. Marek is correct that you need to put the SD card into the plotter first, which puts the plotter information on the SD card. But nothing has to be on the PC in my experience. I just put the formatted SD card into the PC and went to the Garmin website when I updated charts before going to the Chesapeake last summer. The Garmin website put the new chart data and a software update for the plotter onto the SD card. Then put the SD card into the slot on the plotter and it all uploads automatically. I was impressed at how painless it was. Rick Brass -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140120/c81e6510/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 16:56:14 -0400 From: Rich Knowles <[email protected]> To: "Ronald B. Frerker" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List was storing handheld gps ..radios etc. now off topic Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Or they could join the SPCA; the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Audiences. That's the group that pays street musicians not to play. Rich > On Jan 20, 2014, at 15:46, "Ronald B. Frerker" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Need to form a new group, DAMM (drunks against mad mothers). > Ron > STL > > > From: Rich Knowles <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 6:03 AM > Subject: Re: Stus-List storing handheld gps ..radios etc. > > No fun any more. Thanks, MADD:) > > Rich > >> On Jan 18, 2014, at 3:31, Jim Watts <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> That sounds like the last call at the Manhattan Ballroom, 15 miles out of >> Saskatoon. That's where I saw Burton Cummings and the Guess Who in their >> early days. >> All those people, hurling in the bushes, cars in the ditch all the >> way back to the highway. Man, I miss that. : ) >> >> Jim Watts >> Paradigm Shift >> C&C 35 Mk III >> Victoria, BC >> >> >> On 17 January 2014 18:40, Rich Knowles <[email protected]> wrote: >> Gives new meaning to "One for the ditch!" >> >> Rich >> > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 C&C 38MkII Newport, RI ? ? ? ? From:CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 2:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 ? You don?t install the tracks. Use the existing tracks and use the new cars on the old tracks. (my tracks are 1977 - I assume - and they still don't leak!) ? sam :-) ? From:?dwight Sent:??Monday?, ?January? ?20?, ?2014 ?12?:?42? ?PM To:[email protected] ? So do most people get away with installing these tracks and never have leaks.? With all the associated holes through the deck it would be very fortunate to never experience leaking and with the liners in C&C boats that leaking can be well hidden. ? ________________________________ From:CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: January 20, 2014 3:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 ? I have the setup that is photo #2 on my 38. Guido at Garhauer will machine the cars so they fit on the Merriman H track you have already. No need to convert to more modern T track, with all the hassles of changing. ? Among other things, T track has greater spacing between the mounting screws than H track had, so if you remove the H track, you need to over drill and fill all of the holes with epoxy to seal the deck, and then over drill, fill, and drill holes for the new track plus make new aluminum backing plates or modify the existing plate to fit. New track is a real PITA, and the Garhauer ball bearing cars work really well on the H track. ? Plus Guido did the modified cars for my installation at no extra cost. I would imagine he will do the same for you. ? I chose car #2 vs. car #3 because it offers a greater range of flexibility when the car is forward and you are broad reaching. Car style #3 is a bigger sheave and it makes it possible to put two sheets through the sheave, thus making sail changes easier. I have roller furling, so change the sheets almost never (at least the ones on the headsail). ? At $300 per side, these are a real value and a pleasure to use in comparison to the old pin stop cars. ? If you want to take a poll on the list about the quality, service, and value of the Garhauer hardware in comparison to Harken or other brands, I don?t think you will find anyone who has Garhauer stuff to make a bad comment. It is a little heavier than Harken, but costs half as much and is just a functional. And of what consequence is a couple of ounces on a boat that weighs in at close to 15,000 pounds anyway? ? ? Rick Brass Imzadi-1976 C&C 38 mk1 la Belle Aurore-1975 C&C 25 mk1 Washington, NC ? ? ? From:CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Petar Horvatic Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 12:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List Adjustable genoa car system for C&C 38 ? Hi, has anyone looked into getting an adjustable(re-tractable) geona car system for an old style C&C genoa tracks? By adjustable I mean something like this, but components would have to be compatible with the C&C style genoa track.. http://www.southernseasmarine.com.au/image/cache/data/EZ%20Glide-500x500.jpg ? ? Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 C&C 38MkII Newport, RI ? ? ? _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ [email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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