Thanks Steven, I just sent him a message. Someone asked on the forum before me
but I told him I'd take them if that didn't work out. We'll see.. Danny
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Stevan Plavsa <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:01:16 -0500
Five hours up the coast but it may be of
help:http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/showthread.php?s=5456c608b8d8b28edafcd1d3292c1a74&t=7991
I would buy those parts if the seller was close to me. $150 for all that stuff
is a deal and I have no spares. SteveSuhana, C&C 32Toronto
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Stevan Plavsa <[email protected]> wrote:
Plenty of used motors if your friend doesn't mind a bit of travel. This link
has the results of a search for "atomic 4" on craigslist across the entire
U.S.http://tinyurl.com/craigslist-atomic4 Your friend might also have luck
poking through the websites of his local yacht clubs. They typically have
classifieds sections and I've often seen stuff there that didn't make it to
craigslist. Though, craigslist is the first place I'de look. On the topic of
the venerable old A4:When I purchased Suhana I opted for the boat with the A4
because my thinking was that a 30 year old motor is a 30 year old motor. The
premium for a later model 32 with an originaldiesel wasn't justified in my
opinion. Any old motor is a liability (mechanically). The later model 32s were
all 10k more than my boat, that's the price of a brand new diesel so why would
I buy an old one? The later 32s have things mine doesn't like an oven and
refrigeration (IIRC) but those aren't worth 10k either, especially if they're
original. So for me it was a financial decision. I do appreciate that the old
A4 is quiet however and so far, easy to work on. Oh, and plenty of support on
the Moyer Marine forum. Steve
Suhana, C&C 32Toronto
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Della Barba, Joe <[email protected]>
wrote:
Gasoline is dangerous. So is *propane*, which many of you have. Be careful with
both of them ;)
The A4 runs through about 3/4-1 gal/hr at cruise FYI.
I once listened to a speech about the safety of diesel from a Cabo Rico owner
that stored his dinghy gas tank in the cabin!
Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I
-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of OldSteveH
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
Three years ago I was doing work up my mast about 100 ft away from a 40`
wooden Chriscraft which exploded during refuelling.
It was shocking and there was no warning for those nearby. My point - it's
more than rhetoric or something you only hear about. It can actually happen.
Second observation - a friend rebuilt his A4 last winter, reinstalled in the
spring and found out his tranny was seized. R&R all over again.
The message - take the time to go over everything and rebuild/refurbish as
necessary. You don't want to take it out twice. Of course same goes for any
engine.
3rd - my 3GM will use about 1/4 tank of fuel motoring and motor sailing for
13 hours. How will that compare with gasoline - I think there's a big
difference.
Not criticizing the idea of keeping an A4, just being aware of some risks and
differences.
Cheers,
Steve Hood
S/V Diamond Girl
C&C 34
Lions Head ON
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 15:26:16 GMT
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Every time someone brings up the A4, the diesel suggestions start to flow.
LOL Okay the guy needs a head, he can buy a completely new aftermarket one
from Moyer for $450 and be back on the water in, literally hours after
receiving it... �OOORRR... �he can buy a used diesel for $2500
and replace that and all the fuel lines and fuel tank and filters and whatever
else for a minimum of another probably $1500 or $2000 in parts and periferals
like what prop, shaft, whatever, and install it all himself in, oh i don't know,
2 or 3 weekends... �Then there is all the adjustments and testing
another weekend at least. What is the gain, �It's sail boat, isn't the
idea to be sailing and not chugging along under power for days at a time?
�I mean the diesel with most certainly add to the value of your boat,
but probably no more than the cost to convert it. �The Atomic 4 is a
great motor and, in my opinion, better suited for coastal cruising and
day-sailing. �I guess if your going to do some passage making then, yes,
the diesel would be a good decision. �Then there is all the rhetoric
about unsafe gasoline in your boat and fuel consumption. �Of course
there is truth to those statements but, how many boats do we hear about
exploding every year? �Fuel consumption? �again, if your passage
making, but if you're just using it to get in and out harbors or to motor home
for a few hours when there is no wind, I really don't see the benefit.
�You can get gas at far more marinas than diesel too... �Besides,
they don't stink and they're quieter than a diesel! End of rant, �Sorry
I couldn't stop myself... �LOL Go A4!!! �Danny!! P.S.
�Just for full disclosure, �My brand new A4 from Moyer STILL
doesn't run the way I think it should...
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "dwight" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:41:43 -0400
OK Joe, same for the Universal M4-30…I got one in my 35 MKII and it
fits well in the space with no apparent mods to what it sits on…it is
also basically a Kubota engine I believe
From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Della
Barba, Joe
�Sent: January 29, 2014 10:11 AM
�To: [email protected]
�Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
Nothing is an *exact* drop in, but Beta Marine has IMHO the best “almost
an A4” diesels. They are based on Kubota blocks.
I lucked out and got a very nice A4 that had been rebuilt as a project by an
engineering officer for $1500 on Craigslist. I bought it within about 45
minutes of the ad going up.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dwight
�Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:08 AM
�To: [email protected]
�Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
Josh
If so, I believe the Universal M4-30 is a drop in replacement for the A4 on a
35 MKII. �I know the previous owner of my 35 MKII after several (4)
disappointments with A4 replacement engines or heads took the plunge and so I
ended up getting a 35MKII with a diesel already installed and that little
4 cylinder has lots of power for the boat and runs quiet and smooth as
silk…he also changed to the H5 Autoprop when he installed the
diesel…that’s a really good combo…It does require a
significant expense to do the job, but why not, especially if ones intends to
keep the boat, you never regret having a could auxiliary propulsion system
From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley
�Sent: January 29, 2014 8:14 AM
�To: [email protected]
�Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
I know he's looking for an Atomic 4 but I thought he might find value in
converting to diesel.
http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=221361267650&globalID=EB
AY-MOTOR
http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=131102768897&globalID=EB
AY-MOTOR
Josh Muckley
�S/V Sea Hawk
�Solomons, MD
On Jan 28, 2014 5:57 PM, "Aaron Rouhi" <[email protected]> wrote:
My good friend just lost his Atomic 4 on a 35-2 (cracked head and other major
issues). He's looking for another Atomic 4 as a replacement. Any leads is
greatly appreciated.
�Cheers,
Aaron R.
1979 30-MK1
Annapolis, MD
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