My centerboard is similar if not identical to those on the 37s--I can't prove 
it but I think its design was copied from the 37s--I don't think an entire new 
trunk/board was designed for the
34/36 of which mine is hull #77.

That said, be sure that the entire cable is inspected during your haul out. 
Without removing the pennant stop on the cabin top, this is impossible since 
this stop prevents the board from
going further down than maximum and at this maximum, it is virtually impossible 
to inspect the cable except by feeling the very end of it near the board via 
the aft end of the trunk. If the cable
is worn somewhere else (besides on what can be seen on the cabin top), it will 
never be found unless the floor boards are removed and the sheaves inspected 
where the cable passes over them while moving the board between the maximum up 
and down positions. This is now my drill during my annual haul-outs.

Further, if you do have a catastrophic failure and the board falls and is 
stopped by the forward part of the trunk, stop sailing immediately and slowly 
motor back to port.

The athwartship pressure on the board when sailing is taken up by the sides of 
the trunk--when it is fully dropped (cable loss), it has NO support from the 
trunk and is hanging
only by the pin. If you continue sailing with the board extended this way, you 
will rip it out of the boat if it is still there. If the board is gone, 
motor/sail home and glass the slot over or rebuild/install a new board!

The latter happened once to me and I built another board. The former happened 
once but while the new board was down so only the pennant needed replaced.

Such are, as you know, the vagaries of owning a centerboard boat. OTOH, with a 
4.5 ft. draft with the board up. I can get into virtually any marina on the NC 
coast/sounds and
still go to weather with the fin keels. Downwind, as they say "...not so 
much..." with my relatively massive centerboard trunk with the board tucked up 
inside it.

Trade-offs, trade-offs, etc.,

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 35 XL/kcb
1995





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-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Aronson <[email protected]>
To: cnc-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Mar 7, 2014 11:02 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names


Edd,


I bet having the cable done when she's hauled is cheaper than the glass job.


I'd have trouble finding a lift that could accommodate 10 foot draft!  I had to 
wait 3 days for the right tide with 6.5 due to a pesky westerly wind blowing 
everything out of the river this fall.


Joel




On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Edd Schillay <[email protected]> wrote:

Joel,


        You’re right. The cable itself would not be a major expense. 


        The hauling the boat 10 feet in the air, perhaps as an emergency 
short-haul, and doing the repairs while in a travel lift, dismantling what’s 
there, snaking a new wire through and everything else gets expensive. And if it 
breaks on its own, I’m looking a major out-of-pocket keel repair. 


        I’m not so sure about the resale value part. A shoal-draft keel has its 
advantages, especially for cruising. And, a next owner would not need to 
continually inspect and possibly repair the cable.


        Upwind performance is the biggie. But, in less than 10, I find the boat 
runs slower VMG than with the board up. And in Western LI Sound, we don’t get 
above 10 all that often. As I said — playing with the idea. 





        All the best,


        Edd




        Edd M. Schillay
        Starship Enterprise
        C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
        City Island, NY 

        Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log





On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Joel Aronson <[email protected]> wrote:


Edd,


I wouldn't think the cable (or Dyneema) would be a major expense.   You would 
hurt the resale value and upwind performance if you glassed it over.


Joel




On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Edd Schillay <[email protected]> wrote:

Dwight,


        Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard 
model — better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering and 
raising the board is quiet and it’s great to have some control over how much 
you can have down there depending on wind strength — Then, I joined this list 
and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the board doing 
(uninsured) damage to the keel. 


        So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the 
cable. So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but I 
dread the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$). 


        Now that I’m transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing 
lifestyle, I have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, forcing 
it to always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or maintain 
the cable again. 





        All the best,


        Edd




        Edd M. Schillay
        Starship Enterprise
        C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
        City Island, NY 

        Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log









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