Rob Gallagher's paraphrasing of Rob Ball's take on wet cores:

To paraphrase Rob Ball (C&C designer) when he answered a question last
summer about cored decks...   '....Ok, so the core is wet, lots of boats
have wet cores, now what?  If there is no serious de-lamination who cares?
 Spend a fortune to fix a damp core or sail the boat for another decade,
maybe longer?'  I would, however, try to find the leak and fix it.

Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Dave Godwin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Martin,
>
> I’m planning on taking on my boat this summer the same job as you have
> undertaken.
>
> This is just a general question but I’m wondering about what I may expect
> to find when I get started. My question is this: When you pull the deck
> hardware and find areas that need to fixed that have wet core, is it a
> matter of “large” areas of wet surrounding the hole or is it generally just
> confined to local intrusion around the bolt holes? Meaning I guess, are you
> going in a removing wet core within reach of the original hardware bolt
> hole or are you cutting up the top layer of deck and going in and replacing
> the core?
>
> And as follow-on, is the balsa rotten or is it “merely” wet”? As I said, I
> say that because I’m wondering how much of the deck fiberglass I can expect
> to cut out and replace. I’m prepared for the worst...
>
> Your observations would be welcome.
>
> Best,
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin’s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/>
>
> On Apr 21, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Martin DeYoung <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Jimmy,
>
> Thanks for the info based on your Bruckmann built Redline.  I will discuss
> the hatch conversion idea with Calypso’s co-owner but I expect we will keep
> the teak dorade boxes.  One of our goals is to keep the boat mostly looking
> like it was when launched, just a little updated here and there.
>
> > have you decided on deck treatment?<
>
> I am planning to test Kiwi Grip (light gray) and EZPoxy 2 (color similar
> to the original off white) on a cockpit hatch.  I will be testing for how
> the paint applies with brush or roll/tip and how the Kiwi Grip
> looks/feels.  If the light grey non-skid area looks out of place we will
> stick with the existing all off white and use a custom color mix of Kiwi
> Grip or similar non-skid coating.
>
> The original teak foredeck hatch was converted to a A&H 36”x36” back in
> the early 80’s.  The mid and head A&H hatches were original from 1970.  All
> three opening A&H hatches were sent to Hammerhead for refirb.  I will
> report back on how they look when the 90lbs of hatches and packaging arrive
> back next week.
>
> By the time we are finished over 200 holes in the deck will have been
> drilled out and refilled with epoxy.  Some work days we have found more old
> holes that were painted over than we filled.  Must be each past owner moved
> deck hardware around several times.  Most of the old polyester based filler
> (“bondo”) is failing and allows water to seep by.  All deck hardware is
> being removed to inspect for water intrusion.  Most areas checked so far
> have some amount of wet or damaged core.  We are getting faster at
> repairing and sealing the areas.  High load areas will be rebuilt with
> epoxy and glass so no further water damage will occur.
>
> The interior will be sanded or stripped (it is painted Herreshoff style,
> white with teak trim) then repainted with white Brightside.  If time allows
> we will rebuilt the “stick built” sole supports.  After decades of racing
> and cruising, crew weight upon the floorboards causes enough creaking to be
> quite annoying when someone does a middle of the night anchor check.
>
> Martin
> Calypso
> 1971 C&C 43
> Seattle
>
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>
> *From:* CnC-List 
> [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>
> ] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy Kelly
> *Sent:* Monday, April 21, 2014 5:47 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Stus-List dorade box fastening
>
> have 1968 redline 41 by bruckmann mfg....removed dorades..,back in early
> 80s....were fastened from below as well as from inside boxes...also
> glassed....within box....were not designed to be removed......had to have
> yard  ..cut them off...instead of new dorades went with aluminium  14 by 8
> inch hatches...alternated which way opened....one of best changes
> made....especially when in hot climates....30 yrs later..lewmar hatches
> still in great shape....also less teak to maintain...with way yard
> installed hatches ...  length wise parallel to boat centerline....at least
> 2 can be open depending on direction of wave spray...have really worked
> well....also look great...not what had in mind when project started...later
> replaced teak hatches with lewmar aluminium hatches..no more leaks when
> teak wood dried out in hot summer sun.....good luck on your project....have
> you decided on deck treatment?
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