Sorry Martin, I posted mine before yours can through. So you never have the headsail and spinnaker hoisted at the same time? Is there some detail I'm missing as to why? I guess getting a sock up and down outside of the headsail might be challenging. I envision it being more forward than outside.
Josh On Jun 13, 2014 6:09 PM, "Martin DeYoung via CnC-List" < [email protected]> wrote: > I agree with Dennis's comments. > > > > On Calypso I have a snap shackle on the foreguy to make it easy to clear. > The topping lift is on a bridle line with a strong bungee to pull it back > towards the mast. > > > > After the spinnaker hoist I clear the jib sheets forward with enough slack > to lay close to the deck as forward as possible, each sheet running down > its own side of the deck. As Dennis described one of the jib sheets may > need to be pulled forward, cleared off the spin pole and re-run aft. I do > this sooner than later to be ready for the first gybe. > > > > When gybing back and forth I leave the jib sheets forward and out of the > way. Calypso uses a spinnaker sock so I also tie the sock downhaul lines > forward to be clear regardless of which gybe we are on for the take down. > > > > For a mark rounding I plan on having to clear the spin sheets, halyard, > and topping lift (released to allow the bungee to draw the bridle line aft) > before the headsail can be rolled out. I allow the lazy jib sheet to ride > up the spin pole as the sail is rolled out making sure it is not trapped > under the pole or by the foreguy. > > > > If I am on my game, we carry the spinnaker quite close to the mark to keep > boat speed up (2 to 4 boat lengths depending on traffic). On the foredeck > I am ready to lower the spin sock as soon as the sheets is eased. When the > spin sheet is eased and the sail collapses I quickly drop the sock, call > for full ease of the afterguy, and lower the sail/sock to the deck. As I > am dousing the spinnaker the cockpit crew is setting the main up for going > to weather and rounding the mark. With the sail on deck I clear the halyard > so it does not foul the rolling furler then clear the spin sheets and > verify the active jib sheet is clear. As the cockpit crew pulls out the > headsail I assist the active jib sheet by pulling aft which allows me to > insure it is clear and ready to be used. Once the boat is going to weather > I finish cleaning up the foredeck and verify the lazy jib sheet is clear > for a tack. > > > > Calypso's co-owner and I race double-handed on occasion and do all of the > above in TWS up to 15. Over 15 we typically will not set the spinnaker to > avoid getting in over our heads. If the wind builds with the spinnaker up > we will often be able to gybe in up to 20 TWS but over that the forces > generated by the 43's sail plan become difficult to handle shorthanded. > The sock provides the safety bailout plan in case of something un-expected. > > > > Martin > > Calypso > > 1971 C&C 43 > > Seattle > > > [image: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dennis > C. via CnC-List > *Sent:* Friday, June 13, 2014 2:35 PM > *To:* OldSteveH; CnClist > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Chutes and Furling Headsails > > > > Not quite sure what you're asking but here's what happens on the foredeck > assuming a port rounding and a starboard pole chute set. I hope I get it > right from memory. :) > > Pre- chute hoist - pole is on deck. Jibsheets are on TOP of pole forward > of topping lift if attached. Pole topping lift is either not attached to > pole bridle and pinned at mast or is attached but with a LOT of slack so it > essentially hangs straight down the mast to the deck (near the collar). > Pole downhaul is attached with appropriate slack. I usually, pull the > downhaul up over my head before attaching to lower bridle. > > Hoist - pole is set, guy is pre-fed, pole end is pulled back. Chute is > hoisted, clews are spread, chute fills. Headsail is furled. > > OK, at this point the starboard jibsheet should be over the pole and > forward of the topping lift. The downhaul is under the pole. > > Now you gybe. End for end gybes will drop the jibsheets to the deck UNDER > the pole but forward of the downhaul. You will need to re-run one of the > jibsheets OVER the pole and forward of the topping lift on the last gybe > before the mark to ensure it is clear to tack. Make sure when the pole is > dropped that the jibsheet stays on top of the pole. After the drop, it is > the foredeck's responsibility to check the jibsheets and advise the > afterguard that they are "clear to tack". > > Dennis C. > > Touche' 35-1 #83 > > Mandeville, LA > > > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:06 PM, OldSteveH via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I "grew up" sailing on racing boats. > None had furlers, ie with jibsheets on furled sails, fouling the pole > downhaul and also the pole itself. > After 4 years with DG I still have to sort out the arrangement every time > we > fly the chute. > And God help us if we have to gybe. > > Can someone explain: Imagine the headsail furled with sheets going back to > starboard and port amidships. > Should I be routing the pole downhaul (which is on a pillowblock center > foredeck) a. between the jib sheets, b. to one side of them or the other? > Are there any odd requirements for a gybe, ie a re-route? > > I thought of taking a bungee cord and tying the jibsheets up near the tack > of the jib. That would make it like the old days. > > This has got to be simpler than I'm making it right now. Thanks for any > tips. > > > Steve Hood > S/V Diamond Girl > C&C 34 > Lions Head ON > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > >
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