During a race last week one of my crew tried to muscle in the genoa furler while it was fouled in the spin halyard. Pow went the feeder extrusion. I purchased a repair kit from Rig Rite for $300 clams (ouch). Then during the 'repair' I busted off the forestay in the main bearing (double ouch). So I treated Zia to a brand new Harken MKIV furler.
So - I have my old Streamstay 2 on Ebay and Craigslist - mainly for parts since the forestay bolt is stuck mighty tight in the main bearing and I doubt that it can be removed. But some of the prices on the parts for these units are pretty crazy, although I guess Rig Rite deserves a good profit for stocking this old stuff. So if any listers out there need any parts I would be happy to make you a deal. I am located in Annapolis. Cheers, Joe 30 MKI "Zia" [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 10:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 101, Issue 58 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: getting seasick (Danny Haughey) 2. Re: getting seasick (Joe Della Barba) 3. Re: getting seasick (Jake Brodersen) 4. Re: getting seasick (Jim Watts) 5. Re: getting seasick ([email protected]) 6. Re: C&C 38 mk1 vs mk2 (Rick Brass) 7. Re: C&C 38 mk1 vs mk2 ([email protected]) 8. Tacking the genoa (David Knecht) 9. Newport to Bermuda race features new C&C Redline 41 (Peter Delean) 10. Re: Tacking the genoa ([email protected]) 11. Re: Tacking the genoa (Tim Goodyear) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:54:45 -0400 From: Danny Haughey <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" My wife swears by ginger. ?Ginger candy, ginger snaps, ginger this, ginger that. ?Always has it on board. Danny >From my Android phone -------- Original message -------- From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List <[email protected]> Date: 06/24/2014 10:21 AM (GMT-05:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick PS.? I've heard about Ginger but never tried it.? Has anyone ever tried Pickled Ginger, like for Sushi?? I always keep that on board, but in those rare moments of seasick don't want to experiment. (Especially when single handing.) Wal _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: [email protected] To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140624/d2 059363/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 14:13:27 -0400 From: Joe Della Barba <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have had flight students use electric wrist band to good effect. Most seasick drugs not approved for flight. One of my dogs got very sick first time out and threw up on my wife :( I taught her to look at the horizon and she is never sick again. You could see her tail go when I pointed where to look "thanks master this is a relief". Joe Coquina Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2014, at 13:54, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: > > My wife swears by ginger. Ginger candy, ginger snaps, ginger this, ginger that. Always has it on board. > > Danny > > > From my Android phone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List <[email protected]> > Date: 06/24/2014 10:21 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick > > > PS. I've heard about Ginger but never tried it. Has anyone ever > tried Pickled Ginger, like for Sushi? I always keep that on board, > but in those rare moments of seasick don't want to experiment. > (Especially when single handing.) > > Wal > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:46:23 -0400 From: "Jake Brodersen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Wal, Some side effects can be severe. For erections lasting more than four hours, you should see a doctor. I carried some Stugeron to Bermuda, but thankfully didn't need it. Jake Jake Brodersen "Midnight Mistress" C&C 35 Mk-III Hampton Va -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick Stugeron (cinnarizine) gets my vote. No more than 15mg, and no side effects. I don't use it much, and the stuff I have on board is six years old. You can't get it in the US, but I ordered it mail order through Canada. In Mexico they only have 75mg tablets, so one has to cut them into quarters, because too strong a dose will have side effects. Wal ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 18:09:23 -0700 From: Jim Watts <[email protected]> To: Jake Brodersen <[email protected]>, 1 CnC List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick Message-ID: <CA+jZ0FdoBw9io4-YZsxYzKGkWwVGJ-7+C2=ro21qbsdc1hw...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" There is treatment for chronic priapism now. Do you have access to lots of ice? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 24 June 2014 17:46, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: > Wal, > > Some side effects can be severe. For erections lasting more than four > hours, you should see a doctor. I carried some Stugeron to Bermuda, > but thankfully didn't need it. > > Jake > > Jake Brodersen > "Midnight Mistress" > C&C 35 Mk-III > Hampton Va > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Wally Bryant via CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:24 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick > > Stugeron (cinnarizine) gets my vote. No more than 15mg, and no side > effects. > I don't use it much, and the stuff I have on board is six years old. > You can't get it in the US, but I ordered it mail order through > Canada. In Mexico they only have 75mg tablets, so one has to cut them > into quarters, because too strong a dose will have side effects. > > Wal > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140624/bb fee749/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 19:16:28 -0600 From: [email protected] Cc: CnC <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" ?If I had an erection lasting more than 4 hours I'd call the Guinness Book of Records first!? sam :-) ? Original Message ? From: Jake Brodersen via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:47 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Reply To: Jake Brodersen Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick Wal, Some side effects can be severe. For erections lasting more than four hours, you should see a doctor. I carried some Stugeron to Bermuda, but thankfully didn't need it. Jake Jake Brodersen "Midnight Mistress" C&C 35 Mk-III Hampton Va -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick Stugeron (cinnarizine) gets my vote. No more than 15mg, and no side effects. I don't use it much, and the stuff I have on board is six years old. You can't get it in the US, but I ordered it mail order through Canada. In Mexico they only have 75mg tablets, so one has to cut them into quarters, because too strong a dose will have side effects. Wal _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: [email protected] To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 23:03:40 -0400 From: Rick Brass <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 38 mk1 vs mk2 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sorry for the late post, but I've just gotten back from the C&C owners gathering in Bermuda. As James has said, the exact break is a mystery as deep as the whereabouts of Hoffa's body or Jimmy Buffets shaker of salt. The preponderance of opinion seems to be that the change from mk1 to mk2 happened with hulls beginning in September, 1976, and occurred somewhere around hull number 90. I have been aboard 5 different 38s over the years, and they all look the same to me. I was once told by a local surveyor who used to work at the Rhode Island plant that the differences were changes made in the shape below the waterline to improve the IOR rating. I've heard the same from other sources, but none definitive. PHRF makes no distinction between the models. My boat is hull 47, and was laid down in January '76 and shipped to the buyer in late April that year. Nothing in my paperwork or the build file refers to the boat as a Mk1, which is logical since it was built before the commonly accepted start of the mk2. The first reference to it as a mk1 was in some paperwork from the PO who bought the boat in the 80s. The beam is over 12 feet (I've measured) at the toe rails. The commonly listed beam for the mk2 is something like 12'3", and since the hull has a pronounced tumblehome that is believable. I have an old IOR measurement certificate for my boat dated in 1978 which lists the beam as "12.6" but who knows how accurate that number is or exactly how it should be interpreted. As James said, the precursor for the 38 was a one-tonner. I've been told that only a few - maybe 3 or 4 - were built. The paperwork I got with my boat includes a copy of an article published in a Canadian sailing magazine in November 1974 that discusses some changes made to improve the IOR rating and performance of a successful C&C 38 foot racing boat. The article lists the beam as 11'5". My theory is that the original race boats were 11'5" and the production hulls were all over 12', and that the specs for the race boats are the source for spec sheets that show the narrower dimension for the Mk1. Steve, you are right that it is a lot of boat for the money, and one of the prettiest girls in the harbor. Rick Brass Imzadi C&C 38 mk1 Washington, NC Sent from my iPad > On Jun 17, 2014, at 20:06, jtsails via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: > > Steve, the break between the Mk1 and Mk2 is a total mystery to me. I own Hull #100 which was built in 1976 while Rick Brass has hull #47 built sometime in 1975? All evidence indicates that my boat is a Mk2 while Rick's is a Mk1. I have been on both boats and I'll be darned if I can find any difference and in my opinion there is no difference. My guess is that C&C didn't like the measurement certificate for the early boats and decided to call the next years boat a Mk2 to get the boat remeasured (just a stab in the dark guess though). Keep in mind that the 38 was designed as a large 1 tonner and the Mk1 was rated slightly above the cut off. I have also noticed that the brochures on the the website do not make any distinction in the different years. Various sources list different dimensions for the beam measurement, and again I can't spot it between the two boats. I suspect that is due to measuring the beam on deck (narrower) versus the overall beam (wider). Some of the sources list the Mk1 as being 6" narrower but that is about the amount of tumblehome in the sides. PHRF also rates them the same. > James > S/V Delaney > 1976 C&C 38 > Oriental, NC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:46 AM > Subject: Stus-List C&C 38 mk1 vs mk2 > > Hi All, > > I can't seem to find what the cut-off date was for the 38 between the mk1 and the mk2. Any ideas? I'm not buying a new boat anytime soon but you know, window shopping and maintaining a short list. Sailboatdata lists the MK2 as having IOR specific changes over the MK1, not sure what that means though? The MK3 is a totally different boat. The 38 has really grown on me and I think it's a really pretty boat. I've read that at least one or two have circumnavigated and they are a lot of boat for the money. Just looking for more info. > > Thanks, > Steve > Suhana, C&C 32 > Toronto > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140624/ee ea4ebc/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 9:10:11 -0400 From: <[email protected]> To: Rick Brass <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 38 mk1 vs mk2 Message-ID: <20140625091011.RHXV1.196113.imail@eastrmwml114> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Jim The original paperwork on Liberty says nothing about it being a MKII so I figure it to is a MKI. The hull # is 99 so I think the break off point is changing from double digits to triple digits. That's my story and I'm sticking to it !! :-)) ...................Gary Kolc ---- Rick Brass via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry for the late post, but I've just gotten back from the C&C owners gathering in Bermuda. > > As James has said, the exact break is a mystery as deep as the whereabouts of Hoffa's body or Jimmy Buffets shaker of salt. The preponderance of opinion seems to be that the change from mk1 to mk2 happened with hulls beginning in September, 1976, and occurred somewhere around hull number 90. > > I have been aboard 5 different 38s over the years, and they all look the same to me. I was once told by a local surveyor who used to work at the Rhode Island plant that the differences were changes made in the shape below the waterline to improve the IOR rating. I've heard the same from other sources, but none definitive. PHRF makes no distinction between the models. > > My boat is hull 47, and was laid down in January '76 and shipped to the buyer in late April that year. Nothing in my paperwork or the build file refers to the boat as a Mk1, which is logical since it was built before the commonly accepted start of the mk2. The first reference to it as a mk1 was in some paperwork from the PO who bought the boat in the 80s. > > The beam is over 12 feet (I've measured) at the toe rails. The commonly listed beam for the mk2 is something like 12'3", and since the hull has a pronounced tumblehome that is believable. I have an old IOR measurement certificate for my boat dated in 1978 which lists the beam as "12.6" but who knows how accurate that number is or exactly how it should be interpreted. > > As James said, the precursor for the 38 was a one-tonner. I've been told that only a few - maybe 3 or 4 - were built. The paperwork I got with my boat includes a copy of an article published in a Canadian sailing magazine in November 1974 that discusses some changes made to improve the IOR rating and performance of a successful C&C 38 foot racing boat. The article lists the beam as 11'5". My theory is that the original race boats were 11'5" and the production hulls were all over 12', and that the specs for the race boats are the source for spec sheets that show the narrower dimension for the Mk1. > > Steve, you are right that it is a lot of boat for the money, and one of the prettiest girls in the harbor. > > Rick Brass > Imzadi > C&C 38 mk1 > Washington, NC > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jun 17, 2014, at 20:06, jtsails via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Steve, the break between the Mk1 and Mk2 is a total mystery to me. I own Hull #100 which was built in 1976 while Rick Brass has hull #47 built sometime in 1975? All evidence indicates that my boat is a Mk2 while Rick's is a Mk1. I have been on both boats and I'll be darned if I can find any difference and in my opinion there is no difference. My guess is that C&C didn't like the measurement certificate for the early boats and decided to call the next years boat a Mk2 to get the boat remeasured (just a stab in the dark guess though). Keep in mind that the 38 was designed as a large 1 tonner and the Mk1 was rated slightly above the cut off. I have also noticed that the brochures on the the website do not make any distinction in the different years. Various sources list different dimensions for the beam measurement, and again I can't spot it between the two boats. I suspect that is due to measuring the beam on deck (narrower) versus the overall beam (wider). Some of the sources list the Mk1 as being 6" narrower but that is about the amount of tumblehome in the sides. PHRF also rates them the same. > > James > > S/V Delaney > > 1976 C&C 38 > > Oriental, NC > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:46 AM > > Subject: Stus-List C&C 38 mk1 vs mk2 > > > > Hi All, > > > > I can't seem to find what the cut-off date was for the 38 between the mk1 and the mk2. Any ideas? I'm not buying a new boat anytime soon but you know, window shopping and maintaining a short list. Sailboatdata lists the MK2 as having IOR specific changes over the MK1, not sure what that means though? The MK3 is a totally different boat. The 38 has really grown on me and I think it's a really pretty boat. I've read that at least one or two have circumnavigated and they are a lot of boat for the money. Just looking for more info. > > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > Suhana, C&C 32 > > Toronto > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > > > Email address: > > [email protected] > > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: > > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > > > Email address: > > [email protected] > > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: > > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:13:32 -0400 From: David Knecht <[email protected]> To: CnC CnC discussion list <[email protected]> Subject: Stus-List Tacking the genoa Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" I would like to get some tips on race tacking. On the genoa, the issue is how to get the new sheet in as far as possible as fast as possible to minimize grinding on the new tack. I am usually shorthanded, which makes this especially challenging. Doing some reading, I realize that I have been releasing the old sheet too soon (when it first starts to luff as opposed to when it is backwinded about 50%). What I am wondering is how to steer through the turn. It seems like you might like to slow the turn after the sheet is released to allow time for the trimmer to get as much sheet in as possible before the sail fills and becomes impossible to trim by hand making for more grinding. True? Any other tricks welcome. Also, is it expected that you will nearly always have to pull the traveller up to windward on each tack? I get a substantial amount of backwind bubble in the main if I don?t. When it is blowing over 10, it is really hard to pull the traveller up each time. Do people expect to do this? Would you do it before the tack when it is easier or after? I find it really hard to pull the traveller up when it is blowing over 10. Is it expected that you might need to use a winch? Thanks- Dave Aries 1990 C&C 34+ New London, CT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140625/ef d36e46/attachment-0001.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you cannot, you probably need more purchase in the traveler system--not necessarily a winch. A winch would provide sufficient power for sure, but it would also be slow. FWIW Charlie Nelson Water Phantom 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: David Knecht via CnC-List <[email protected]> To: CnC CnC discussion list <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jun 25, 2014 10:14 am Subject: Stus-List Tacking the genoa I would like to get some tips on race tacking. On the genoa, the issue is how to get the new sheet in as far as possible as fast as possible to minimize grinding on the new tack. I am usually shorthanded, which makes this especially challenging. Doing some reading, I realize that I have been releasing the old sheet too soon (when it first starts to luff as opposed to when it is backwinded about 50%). What I am wondering is how to steer through the turn. It seems like you might like to slow the turn after the sheet is released to allow time for the trimmer to get as much sheet in as possible before the sail fills and becomes impossible to trim by hand making for more grinding. True? Any other tricks welcome. Also, is it expected that you will nearly always have to pull the traveller up to windward on each tack? I get a substantial amount of backwind bubble in the main if I don?t. When it is blowing over 10, it is really hard to pull the traveller up each time. Do people expect to do this? Would you do it before the tack when it is easier or after? I find it really hard to pull the traveller up when it is blowing over 10. Is it expected that you might need to use a winch? Thanks- Dave Aries 1990 C&C 34+ New London, CT _______________________________________________ his List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: [email protected] o change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page t: ttp://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140625/52 98213c/attachment-0001.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On the main, it sounds like you need to work on your traveler or purchase system - there should be no need to use a winch in any wind strength. Ideal main trim is to pull the traveler to windward as you start the turn (helps turn the boat to windward), then build speed with the traveler to leeward on the new tack and gradually bring the boom to centerline as you accelerate. That should be no issue at all for your trimmer with a nice new Harken traveler setup... Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:13 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List < [email protected]> wrote: > I would like to get some tips on race tacking. On the genoa, the > issue is how to get the new sheet in as far as possible as fast as > possible to minimize grinding on the new tack. I am usually > shorthanded, which makes this especially challenging. Doing some > reading, I realize that I have been releasing the old sheet too soon > (when it first starts to luff as opposed to when it is backwinded > about 50%). What I am wondering is how to steer through the turn. It > seems like you might like to slow the turn after the sheet is released > to allow time for the trimmer to get as much sheet in as possible > before the sail fills and becomes impossible to trim by hand making for more grinding. True? Any other tricks welcome. > Also, is it expected that you will nearly always have to pull the > traveller up to windward on each tack? I get a substantial amount of > backwind bubble in the main if I don?t. When it is blowing over 10, > it is really hard to pull the traveller up each time. Do people > expect to do this? Would you do it before the tack when it is easier > or after? I find it really hard to pull the traveller up when it is > blowing over 10. Is it expected that you might need to use a winch? > Thanks- Dave > > Aries > 1990 C&C 34+ > New London, CT > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140625/13 860c00/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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