Topsides as in the hull above the waterline. I have put nonslip Kiwigrip on the deck with great results, with white Brightside in the areas that don’t require nonslip. Similar situation. It looks good, not as good as Awlgrip, and it’s extremely easy to touch up. Very functional for an older sailboat that you want to look niced without putting $$$ into the job.
Kiwigrip goes for about $100 a gallon these days. Jack Brennan Former C&C 25 Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 Tierra Verde, Fl. From: Burt Stratton Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:02 PM To: 'Jack Brennan' Subject: RE: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C - now painting topsides Thanks. “topsides” Are you talking about the hull above the waterline or the deck? From: Jack Brennan [mailto:jackbren...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 6:42 PM To: Burt Stratton; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C - now painting topsides I painted my topsides with one-part Brightside about two years ago – flag blue – and have been happy with the results even in the Florida sun. Yeah, you get a slight fading if you don’t wax. I don’t mind because it still looks good, and I don’t want to have to strip off wax to do an occasional touch-up when I scrape something. That’s another advantage. Stuff happens. And Brightside is easy to touch up. My plan is to add another coat or two when I haul out every four or five years. That adds about two days to my yard time. The cost to do a nice job is under $100. With good prep, there’s no problem with peeling or chipping. For an older small boat, I just don’t see the sense of spending thousands on an Awlgrip paint job. Jack Brennan Former C&C 25 Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 Tierra Verde, Fl. From: Burt Stratton via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 3:16 PM To: 'Dennis C.' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C - now painting topsides Good advice, thanks. I know the PO so perhaps he could tell me what paint was used last. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 12:37 PM To: Russ & Melody; CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C - now painting topsides I second Russ' caution. If you're not stripping the old paint, try a test spot first. Paints contain solvents which may not be compatible with other paints. When we painted Touche' a few years ago, I prepped the hull with degreaser then 320 grit sandpaper. We shot a test spot of Awlcraft. It didn't stick to the old paint and bubbled up where a second underlying paint had been exposed. I ended up stripping all the old layers of paint with a Hutchins straight line sander. Don't use a disc sander! Even after stripping, it required 3 coats of high build primer to get good results. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Hi Burt (or is it Skip or Ship?), Be careful with the epoxy paint. Unless they've change remarkably in twenty years you will have a chaulking problem down the road. I had a deck cabin painted with epoxy on one boat and a mast on the other boat. Both of them started leaving a white residue after a 1/2 dozen years. The cabin would show on clothing (like after sitting on it) and the mast has a white mess at the base after a rain. (We live in a rain forest, south western Canada). On Sweet I spent the extra bucks (~$600) for all supplies, and went with 2-pot urethane that the Admiral & I put on, roll & tip for cockpit, deck and cabin. For an economical job go with the Rustoleum urethane and put the best primer you can underneath it. As you probably know, prep & primer is 80% of the job. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 (A4 replaced with a running take-out Yanmar diesel I got for $1500 seven years ago, but that's a whole 'nother topic :) At 07:59 AM 01/08/2014, you wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0519_01CFAD77.AF3D5720" Content-Language: en-us Thanks for the offer, Joe. You never know with these old A4s. I’m sure you are right about the estimate but I have some wiggle room before I get to the value of the boat. The PO was planning on salvaging the rig and crushing the hull so you can imagine what I might have paid. The boat looked tough but most of the issues (and there are a lot) are cosmetic.  After three weeks we are ready to get her in the water and do some sailing before the season is over. I have spent so far just over $1500 and a LOT of elbow grease. My wife is a very good seamstress and she is willing to do the cushions including adding some back rests. We already have the materials in hand (Sunbrella). I am not using Awlgrip, just some decent deck and epoxy paint. The hull is in good shape and I will not be completely stripping the old paint. It is in good shape, just a little beat up and the wrong color. I am keeping in mind that this is not ever going to be a show boat. Just making it look good and feel good for two to spend a weekend on board. If sails come into the picture that number goes out the door. We will see where it all ends up but I am confident at this point that my efforts on this boat will (for the first time in my life) probably come back to me when I sell her for a bigger boat (the real upgrade). My guess is that I could have at least tripled my purchase price without doing anything but what fun is that? Best Skip -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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