Danny, I had a similar issue with my A4 a couple of years ago. I felt that the 
issue was an air leak in the fuel system. After checking every connection I 
could think of, spending money on a mechanic, installing a new, electric fuel 
pump, etc. I decided to pull the fuel tank. When I took off the pick up fitting 
and lifted it up, the plastic pick up tube fell off the barbed fitting. 15 
cents of the pink teflon tape later and the problem was solved! 

Chris Price 
Pradel 
35 Mk I 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected], [email protected] 
Cc: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 9:36:31 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List more atomic 4 issues.. 

Okay, 
Given all the discussion, I've decided the next step, as it is really the only 
thing I did not replace, is to buy a 5 gal outboard engine gas can and run the 
engine with a brand new gas can and brand new gas. My gut is leading me back to 
the tank and the pickup tube. 
I think this will eliminate the entire existing gas system and either show me 
the light or eliminate it from the investigation. Of course, I won't be able to 
test it all out until Saturday. 
If the Gas can does not do the trick, I'll swap the carburetor again... I'll go 
home and clean that up tonight so I have it at the ready. So, should I, if the 
gas can does not prove to be the issue, continue on the 5 gal OB tank and swap 
the carb or go back to the existing tank before swapping out the carburetor? 
Danny 


---------- Original Message ---------- 
From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Stus-List more atomic 4 issues.. 
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:20:41 -0300 

Danny: 

While not A4 specific, these examples might help solve your engine problem. 

A fellow C&C lister had a C&C 24 with an inboard Volvo Penta gas 
engine......the engine simply would not start, or stay started, with anything 
but Volvo Penta spark plugs. He can chime in and tell you the story. 

I have an old (est. 50 years) Lawn Boy lawn mower.....for years, it started the 
first pull but after it ran for a while and you shut it off, it would not 
restart. Replaced the coil, problem solved. 

Keep working at it, you will find the problem. 

Rob Abbott 
AZURA 
C&C 32 - 84 
Halifax, N.S. 






From: CnC-List [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Danny 
Haughey via CnC-List 
Sent: August 13, 2014 12:33 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! 





Alright, the saga continues. 

We went for a sea trial Sunday after the changes, i.e. Vent line cleared, 
filters changed, clamps tightened. The engine ran great all the way to 
Cuttyhunk. I probably ran it about 3 hours. Two of those hours I ran it a 
little harder than I normally do after having read Don M's reasons for having 
black sooty spark plugs. I thought my problems were solved. 

On our way home from cuttyhunk, We motored out the harbor and decided that, 
because the wind was a little light, we would motor home to run the engine some 
more. 50 minutes into our ride home, the same thing, only a bit slower. the 
whole, slow, stall happened over maybe a minute or two. Some sputter, then run 
normal, a little more sputter, then normal and then a slow stall. 

We then sailed home and into the mooring field. This is actually a benefit of 
the engine troubles, I've been a bit intimidated about sailing onto the mouth 
of the river due to the current and very tight channel flanked by shoals and 
some pretty ominous looking rocks. I've now had to sail into the harbor twice 
over this last weekend. At one point we were probably doing 4 or 4.5knts 
through the water but only 1 to 1.5knts over the ground fighting that current. 
On one side of the boat it a big, rocky cliff and the other shoal. it was a 
little adrenalin pumping! Anyway, the approach to our mooring was dead, head to 
wind, along with the current in the same direction, I lost forward motion under 
sail and started the engine. She started right up and we motored onto the 
mooring without incident. 

So, safely moored, I pulled the vent tube, it was clear. I then went below and 
pulled a spark plug and it was all black and sooty again after maybe 4 hours 
running time. 

I used the Moyer rebuild kit on the carb that is on there now. I'm not sure 
but, I think I changed the main jet to the moyer recomended one at that time. I 
think it came with the rebuild kit. 

My earlier idling issues seemed to have been solved by swapping out the carb 
that came with the exchange engine for the one I rebuilt off the original 
engine and had just sitting around as a spare. I think what I would like to do 
now is, clean up the carb that came with the exchange engine. and swap them 
back out. I'll then replace the plugs and run it some more. Unless you guys 
think I should maybe try another path forward. 

Danny 





P.S. Cuttyhunk was Amazing! 






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