Jake,

Once again, perfect timing. I would be very interesting in seeing photos of 
what to expect when dropping the keel and rebedding. I just yanked the mast 
this morning and the keel joint/keel-bolt maintenance is on the top of the 
project list for this coming Fall. 

I know that the 37' is not the same boat but the design is very similar and any 
idea of what I’m approaching would be greatly appreciated.

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit

On Sep 2, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

> Marcus,
> 
> I have had the keel of my boat dropped and rebedded.  One bolt is under the
> mast.   It takes several men and a good travellift to get the job done.  The
> keel bolts are very long.  We came very close to running out of room on the
> travellift.  My boat is quite similar to yours.  I can supply photos offline
> if you would find them helpful.  It's not a hard job, just it does require
> some serious gear.
> 
> Jake
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of mbogaert
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:33 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List CnC 33 MK II Keel removal
> 
> Greeetings CnC  fans
> 
> Does anyone out there have any insight or experience in dropping the keel on
> a 33 foot MKII. According to the diagrams in my owners manual one of the
> five bolts is under the mast.  It also looks like the keel will have to be
> dropped over 1.5 feet in order to clear the  keel bolt from the keel stub
> due to the length of the two most fwd bolts. 
> 
> any correspondence on this subject would be appreciated especially fot the
> 33 MKII. I am hauling her tomorrow due to a grounding incident which seems
> to have only shown evidence of cosmetic flaking. 
> 
> Marcus
> 1986 CnC 33 MKII
> Victoria BC  
> 
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>   1.  Atomic 4 on Craigslist Nanaimo (Russ & Melody)
>   2.  Battery chargers. (Glen Eddie)
>   3. Re:  Battery chargers. (Dennis C.)
>   4. Re:  Battery chargers. (Josh Muckley)
>   5. Re:  Battery chargers. (Joe Della Barba)
>   6. Re:  Battery chargers. (Rich Knowles)
>   7. Re:  Battery chargers. (Josh Muckley)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:21:48 -0700
> From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Atomic 4 on Craigslist Nanaimo
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> Hi Guys,
> 
> No affiliation here, just thought I will pass along for anyone who might be
> interested. Seems pretty good considering fresh water cooled an electronic
> ignition.
> 
> http://nanaimo.craigslist.ca/boa/4622990799.html
> 
>         Cheers, Russ
>         Sweet 35 mk-1
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> From: Glen Eddie <ged...@torkinmanes.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Battery chargers.
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> 
> Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35 mk
> i
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> Glen Eddie
> Tel: 416-777-5357
> Fax: 1-888-812-2557
> ged...@torkinmanes.com<mailto:ged...@torkinmanes.com>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:41:03 -0500
> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>
> To: Glen Eddie <ged...@torkinmanes.com>, CnClist
>       <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
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> 
> Mastervolt ChargeMaster 12/25-3 or 12/35-3 or a Blue Sea Systems 7521 25
> amp.
> 
> If you can find one on eBay, a old Xantrex Truecharge 20+ (NOT a Truecharge
> 2).  Here's a link to a refurbished one:
> 
> <
> http://www.neobits.com/xantrex_804_0220r_truecharge_20_reburbished_p5505650.
> html?atc=gbp&gclid=CNKS0pDxvsACFSgV7AodOBIAxQ
>> 
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a 
>> c&c
>> 35 mk i
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>>   Glen Eddie  Tel: 416-777-5357  Fax: 1-888-812-2557 
>> ged...@torkinmanes.com  VCard 
>> <http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie>
>> Torkin Manes LLP
>> Barristers & Solicitors
>> 
>> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:04:12 -0500
> From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
> To: Glen Eddie <ged...@torkinmanes.com>, "C&C List"
>       <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
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> 
> There are a lot of great options out there.  My expierience with Xantrex
> TrueCharge 2 (40 amp and 60 amp) was very poor and I would recommend staying
> away from them.  As a replacement I got a ProNautiP from ProMariner
> (60amp) and have had absolutely no issues.
> 
> http://promariner.com/products/dry-mount-marine-battery-chargers/pronauticp-
> series/
> 
> Use care when selecting the current capacity of the charger.  It should be
> selected based on the Amp-hour capacity of the largest battery bank.  25% of
> capacity for lead-acid, 30% for gel, 40% for AGM.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Aug 31, 2014 6:35 PM, "Glen Eddie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a 
>> c&c
>> 35 mk i
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>>   Glen Eddie  Tel: 416-777-5357  Fax: 1-888-812-2557 
>> ged...@torkinmanes.com  VCard 
>> <http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie>
>> Torkin Manes LLP
>> Barristers & Solicitors
>> 
>> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 22:29:13 -0400
> From: "Joe Della Barba" <j...@dellabarba.com>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
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> http://stores.ebay.com/The-ChargerGuy?_trksid=p2047675.l2563
> 
> 
> 
> This store seems to have good deals.  I have an old metal TrueCharge that
> hasn't been made in a long time.
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Della Barba
> 
> j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> 
> 
> 
> 
> Coquina
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh
> Muckley via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:04 PM
> To: Glen Eddie; C&C List
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
> 
> 
> 
> There are a lot of great options out there.  My expierience with Xantrex
> TrueCharge 2 (40 amp and 60 amp) was very poor and I would recommend staying
> away from them.  As a replacement I got a ProNautiP from ProMariner (60amp)
> and have had absolutely no issues.
> 
> http://promariner.com/products/dry-mount-marine-battery-chargers/pronauticp-
> series/
> 
> Use care when selecting the current capacity of the charger.  It should be
> selected based on the Amp-hour capacity of the largest battery bank.  25% of
> capacity for lead-acid, 30% for gel, 40% for AGM.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
> On Aug 31, 2014 6:35 PM, "Glen Eddie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35 mk
> i
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  _____  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Glen Eddie
> 
> 
> Tel: 416-777-5357 <tel:416-777-5357> 
> 
> 
> Fax: 1-888-812-2557 <tel:1-888-812-2557> 
> 
> 
> ged...@torkinmanes.com <mailto:ged...@torkinmanes.com> 
> 
> 
> VCard <http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie> 
> 
> 
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> Barristers & Solicitors
> 
> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 00:39:49 -0300
> From: Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca>
> To: Joe Della Barba <j...@dellabarba.com>,    "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
>       <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
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> 
> I can't see any reason to install a massive charger on a 35' boat with
> minimal dockside DC needs other than refrigeration and stereo. Charging
> overnight with a 10 or 20 amp charger will generally suffice to top up the
> batteries after a day or two on the water. 
> 
> Also, why three banks? Most of the boats I work on and have owned have three
> batteries; two in parallel for the house bank and one for engine starting. 
> Just curious. 
> 
> Rich
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2014, at 23:29, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> http://stores.ebay.com/The-ChargerGuy?_trksid=p2047675.l2563
>> 
>> This store seems to have good deals.  I have an old metal TrueCharge that
> hasn?t been made in a long time.
>> 
>> Joe Della Barba
>> j...@dellabarba.com
>> 
>> Coquina
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh
> Muckley via CnC-List
>> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:04 PM
>> To: Glen Eddie; C&C List
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
>> 
>> There are a lot of great options out there.  My expierience with Xantrex
> TrueCharge 2 (40 amp and 60 amp) was very poor and I would recommend staying
> away from them.  As a replacement I got a ProNautiP from ProMariner (60amp)
> and have had absolutely no issues.
>> 
>> 
> http://promariner.com/products/dry-mount-marine-battery-chargers/pronauticp-
> series/
>> 
>> Use care when selecting the current capacity of the charger.  It should be
> selected based on the Amp-hour capacity of the largest battery bank.  25% of
> capacity for lead-acid, 30% for gel, 40% for AGM.
>> 
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> 
>> On Aug 31, 2014 6:35 PM, "Glen Eddie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35
> mk i
>> 
>> 
>> Glen Eddie
>> Tel: 416-777-5357
>> Fax: 1-888-812-2557
>> ged...@torkinmanes.com
>> VCard
>> 
>> Torkin Manes LLP
>> Barristers & Solicitors
>> 
>> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
>> Toronto ON M5C 2W7
>> torkinmanes.com
>> Member of the International Alliance of Law Firms
>> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 23:35:41 -0500
> From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
> To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
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> 
> I would generally agree with you Rich about the lack of need for a massive
> charger.
> 
> However, if the boat is being used for multiday passages or even just very
> short stops between long days of sailing and no motor, then topping up the
> batteries quickly has its advantages.
> 
> A few places i've been where this was an advantage are Reedville VA,
> Yorktown VA, and Hampton VA where you can pull up for dinner or to walk the
> town for free but it will cost you to stay the night.  A 10amp charger for
> 8 hours overnight will only get you 80amp-hours of bulk charge, less for
> absorption and no time for conditioning.  My fridge averages ~5amps per
> hour so a 24hr day costs me ~100 amp-hours.  That's not counting the
> stereo, vhf, sailing instruments, nav lights, anchor light, cabin lights,
> water pump, vacu-flush, auto-helm.
> 
> Bear in mind that if my biggest and only expected load was the fridge and I
> planned on needing 100amp-hours per day then I would need to plan on having
> a 200amp-hour battery bank (roughly 2 standard deep cycle batteries)
> because, in general draining the batteries below 50% will shorten their
> life.  Thus 25% charging capacity = a 50amp charger.
> 
> Like I said these examples are I little bit more towards the exception but
> it does show the need to have both an adequately sized battery bank and an
> adequately sized battery charger.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> On Aug 31, 2014 11:40 PM, "Rich Knowles via CnC-List"
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I can't see any reason to install a massive charger on a 35' boat with
>> minimal dockside DC needs other than refrigeration and stereo. Charging
>> overnight with a 10 or 20 amp charger will generally suffice to top up the
>> batteries after a day or two on the water.
>> 
>> Also, why three banks? Most of the boats I work on and have owned have
>> three batteries; two in parallel for the house bank and one for engine
>> starting.
>> Just curious.
>> 
>> Rich
>> 
>> On Aug 31, 2014, at 23:29, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> http://stores.ebay.com/The-ChargerGuy?_trksid=p2047675.l2563
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This store seems to have good deals.  I have an old metal TrueCharge that
>> hasn't been made in a long time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Joe Della Barba
>> 
>> j...@dellabarba.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Coquina
>> 
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Muckley via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:04 PM
>> *To:* Glen Eddie; C&C List
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There are a lot of great options out there.  My expierience with Xantrex
>> TrueCharge 2 (40 amp and 60 amp) was very poor and I would recommend
>> staying away from them.  As a replacement I got a ProNautiP from
> ProMariner
>> (60amp) and have had absolutely no issues.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> http://promariner.com/products/dry-mount-marine-battery-chargers/pronauticp-
> series/
>> 
>> Use care when selecting the current capacity of the charger.  It should be
>> selected based on the Amp-hour capacity of the largest battery bank.  25%
>> of capacity for lead-acid, 30% for gel, 40% for AGM.
>> 
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> 
>> On Aug 31, 2014 6:35 PM, "Glen Eddie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35
>> mk i
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *Glen Eddie*
>> 
>> Tel: 416-777-5357
>> 
>> Fax: 1-888-812-2557
>> 
>> ged...@torkinmanes.com
>> 
>> VCard <http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie>
>> 
>> 
>> *Torkin Manes LLP*
>> Barristers & Solicitors
>> 
>> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
>> Toronto ON M5C 2W7
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>> Member of the International Alliance of Law Firms
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