Just has a rig come down yesterday on a Laser 28.

It was blowing like snot, tho.  The attachment below gave way, and came up
through the deck ripping an 8" hole there. They were actually able to get
the mast back on the boat and make it back to Port Dover,  amazingly.

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Abbott via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:10 PM
To: Martin DeYoung; cnc-list@cnc-list.com; Fred Hazzard
Subject: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

 

I am not saying it hasn't happened, but how many of you guys (and gals) have
seen a rig fail on a C&C......I have been sailing for approx. 40 years and
have witnessed rig failures but not one on a C&C.  I did see a 'chain plate'
get pulled up approx one inch threw the deck on a C&C 36 but the crew got
the rig depowered before any more damage could occur....main was up as well.

My 32 has a mast the size of a telephone pole, keel stepped, baby
stay....... and I sail with a 135% all the time and will continue to sail
with the jib alone and will not feel threaten in any way shape or form about
rig failure as long as my standing rigging is sound, as it should be!

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.




On 2014/09/19 5:35 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List wrote:

> . applies to fractional rigs without running back stays.  It could also
apply to mast head rigs without back stays.<

 

What Fred said matches my understanding of why there may be some concern
expressed by some sailors regarding sailing with head sails only.

 

In the very old days the ship's rudders were so small and weak balancing and
steering the vessel by the location and trim of the sails was necessary.
Modern designs and construction methods allow us to compensate for an
un-balanced rig with mechanical advantage and a strong rudder.

 

During the heyday of IOR designs, including fractional rigs, many designers
and owners in search of the smallest advantage would put up a lightly built
small section mast.  I recall seeing 4 and 5 spreader rigs on 40' boats with
very small section mast extrusions.  Many of these rigs appreciated the
additional fore and aft stabilization that the mainsail gave to the mast
itself.  Many of these rigs went over the side owing to operator error.

 

For those of us sailing a well maintained non-custom (thinking Evergreen
here) C&C design with the headsail only in most conditions but certainly in
light air will not jeopardize the rig's stability.  If you find yourself in
heavy air "pounding" conditions it may be well to sight up the mast as the
boat makes a hard landing to be sure the mast "pumping" (fore and aft") is
under control.  In those extreme conditions some mainsail load may add some
dampening to the mast pumping.

 

Martin

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle


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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Fred
Hazzard via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:36 PM
To: Joel Aronson; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

 

I imagine that not sailing with jib only applies to fractional rigs without
running back stays.  It could also apply to mast head rigs with out back
stays.

 

Fred Hazzard

S/V Fury

C&C 44

Porland, Or

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

All,

 

Earlier this week I went out for a lazy sail after work.  Unfurled the jib
in 10 knots of wind and decided I was too lazy to remove the main cover and
hoist the main.

 

I've read that sailing under only jib is bad because it places an uneven
load on the rigging.  Seems to me that the load is minimal in light air and
the total load is a lot less under one sail.

 

Thoughts?

 

Joel

35/3

Annapolis



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Joel 
301 541 8551 <tel:301%20541%208551> 

 

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