Good-day all I recently purchased a C&C We were the market a Sail Boat and fell in love with this vessel. Pretty darn good shape. Pretty much like new inside and excellent shape outside. Very little use. Just a couple times a year and the owner paid to have it maintained. To the point. I got in touch with one of the fellows that was with C&C in the 80's He sent me a copy of the original owner's manual. I would be willing to post it on the site or send it to someone in a pdf file. I am going to copy it and attempt to make it into a word doc. That process is not always successful. For now if someone needs a copy or could tell me how to post it on the site. Thanks. Larry
-----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 105, Issue 28 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Volvo ocean race game? (OldSteveH) 2. Re: Redline 41 (Jerome Tauber) 3. Re: thread reply and rod rigging (Rick Brass) 4. Re: thread reply and rod rigging (Dennis C.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 12:09:35 -0400 From: OldSteveH <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Volvo ocean race game? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There's another online nav game with which some may be familiar: Virtual-loup-de-mer.org French website but most interface is available in English. It's not as graphically fancy as Volvo but seems to be more for 'serious' nav players. I have been on and off it over last 10 years and some of the same dudes are still there . . . Free and ad-free always works for me. A bigger race like VOR or Vendee will get over 1000 entrants. The interface is good and it's accurate, ie good charts, but if you want a nicer looking GUI there are some apps such as Frogtools which work with the website. With that and Ugrib you're all set. Cheers Steve Hood S/V Diamond Girl C&C 34 Lions Head ON ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 22:34:07 -0300 From: Graham Collins <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List Volvo ocean race game? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Anyone doing the volvo ocean race game? (Virtual regatta at http://www.virtualregatta.com/) -- Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 18:39:18 -0400 From: Jerome Tauber <[email protected]> To: Bruno Lachance <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Redline 41 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" For around 50-75K you can get a late 80s C&C 41 with PHRF around 70. I assume the Redline 41 will come in somewhere around PHRF 25. Jerry. C&C. 27 V J&J. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 12, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: > > i did not see the new Redline 41, But i hope that it is more than "slithtly" higher quality than a Bene or a Hanse. i charter a brand new (1month) Hanse in the BVI last year. nice boat, but the quality of the inside is fairly cheap and the deck hardware is minimal... this is just not the same buyer in my opinion. The comp?tition is more like Jboats, Xboats and other european speedsters. > > i just hope they do well and add more boats to the new C&C lineup. but its a very tough market out there. > > you luck you could step on it! > > Bruno > c&c 33 mkII > Becassine > > Envoy? de mon iPad > >> Le 2014-10-11 ? 12:32, Roger Ware via CnC-List <[email protected]> a ?crit : >> >> Joel, You forgot to mention the bad- the 41 is a very expensive boat $400K. Hard to see how it will compete well with the slightly lower quality but much lower priced Beneteaus and Hanses. >> Roger Ware, Kingston, ON >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List >> Sent: October-11-14 12:00 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Stus-List Redline 41 >> >> spent a few minutes on the new 41 at the boat show The good- large cockpit, boat appears solid. The bad- winch placement, cabin steps are too far apart, cabin feels very small, aft quarterberths are open with no door for privacy while cruising, door to head is in forward cabin. 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URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141012/f8 b60bea/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 21:08:41 -0400 From: "Rick Brass" <[email protected]> To: "'David Dawes'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In 2011 I had a toggle break on the starboard jump stay on my 1976 C&C 38. It caused me to question the integrity of the rod rigging. It was, after all, 36 years old at the time and there was no previous indication of any trouble brewing. But my future plans include offshore cruising and at least one more trip to Bermuda. So I decided to do the conservative thing and have the rig looked at. To my great surprise, my rigger and Navtec both recommended having the rigging removed and shipped back to Navtec for non-destructive testing and to be x-rayed. The tech at Navtec was pretty negative about the reliability of testing the rod with dye. Based on the results Navtec would either rehead the rod or replace it - at extra charge of course. The work, shipping, and testing was going to cost almost $4000. In a search for alternatives, my rigger suggested replacing the rod with Dyform wire. I had to put on a wire head stay anyway since I would be installing roller furling when the mast was down(putting a roller furler on rod seems to be a not recommended procedure). So I looked hard at the alternative of Dyform wire all around. Turns out the wire is just a scosh larger in diameter (.020-.030 IIRC) than the rod, but actually has about 1000 pounds higher break strength. The ends on the top of the shrouds and jump stays fit into the existing ball sockets for the rod rigging, and the bottom of the shrouds have Norseman fittings to facilitate fitting and replacement of the shrouds if it is ever needed. The best part, though, was that the whole job was $200 to $300 LESS than the cost for just testing and evaluating the rod. I would not be too concerned about the rod rigging, but would talk to a competent rigger about having it inspected. And if replacement is needed, you too might want to think about using Dyform wire as an alternative to rod. Rick Brass Imzadi C&C 38 mk 2 la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1 Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Dawes via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging Hi, can someone tell me how to reply to a thread? Sorry, I can't figure it out. So I started a new one. Next I looked at a 1984 CNC 35 M3 yesterday. Concerned about the rod rigging. This boat is run down so I don't expect a record of rigging inspection or service. A rigger friend recommended full replacement. Is this correct? And what are alternatives? What is a rod replacement cost approx? And is a wire replacement smart/ advisable/ cost effective or too heavy? Technology has moved ahead in 30 years. I love the boat layout etc. But suspect rigging will kill my offshore pleasure! Many thanks, David. David Dawes Captain Newport, RI, USA +1(401)5854942 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141012/d2 fb8e0b/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:56:56 -0500 From: "Dennis C." <[email protected]> To: David Dawes <[email protected]>, CnClist <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging Message-ID: <canir+yu+b1gkuj9vsr5qzzwz3upfup0zccekagffc8s_1fv...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David, If you're looking at reheading all the rigging, think about pulling the rig, removing all the shrouds, coiling them up and taking them to a NavTec shop. You can coil the rod to no LESS than 200 times diameter and strap it to an "X" made of 2 x 4's for transport. UPS will ship it. You didn't say where you were. There may be a NavTec shop near you. Throw it in a pickup and drive it there. Before you coil it, make a list of each rod and carefully measure the pin to pin distance. That is, between the centers of the hole in each end. Also measure the pin diameters. Now you have a record of the rig. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 7:19 AM, David Dawes via CnC-List < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi, can someone tell me how to reply to a thread? Sorry, I can?t figure > it out. So I started a new one. > > > Next I looked at a 1984 CNC 35 M3 yesterday. Concerned about the rod > rigging. This boat is run down so I don?t expect a record of rigging > inspection or service. > > A rigger friend recommended full replacement. > > Is this correct? And what are alternatives? What is a rod replacement > cost approx? And is a wire replacement smart/ advisable/ cost effective or > too heavy? 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