I put in an anti-backflow valve, but in an area of the bilge where it is easy 
to get to (just under the floorboard). So, when it acts up, I can just take the 
cap off the 'T' part of the valve and clean it out. Or, in the worst case, just 
pull the whole thing - two hose clamps. I wanted the bilge to be as dry as 
possible because of the way the cross members are installed in a 30-1.

Gary
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:17 AM
  Subject: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems


    When I got the boat it had a Rule automatic pump that determined if there 
was water by running on occasion and measuring if there is a resistance to turn 
the impeller..  While it sounds smart in theory, in practice the impeller gets 
gooked-up with normal bilge crap and gets hard to turn whether the bilge is dry 
or not,  it was very inconsistent and could potentially run indefinitely. 

    I replaced the pump with the highest capacity pump that would fit in the 
tiny sump area and went with the solid state Water Witch and a manual Johnson 
pump.  

    The Water Witch 
(https://www.waterwitchinc.com/new/SiteElements/Pages/SecondaryPages/Products/BilgeSwitches.html)
  works flawlessly,(No float to jam,  it measures electrical resistance between 
plates)  but the I have the same spill back problem as I have a 14 - 15 or so 
feet run from the pump to the stern discharge and the pump would not prime when 
I used the joker valve that came with it.  Also, I did not really want to 
introduce the one way valve as I have read too many horror stories about 
possible obstructions keeping the pump from working correctly. 

    So in the interest of time and other more pressing priorities.. I decided 
to just live with a couple cups of water in the lower sump (Mostly comes from 
the stuffing box dripping when we run the engine) .. The way the boat is 
designed it's like a little bucket and it keeps the rest of the bilge dry,  
Since we use the boat regularly the water is not too foul and there's no real 
issue with the smell.  

    Eventually I'd like to add another pump, possibly this one: 
http://www.drybilgesystem.com/  Another thing is to get a small wet / dry vac 
and just suck it after using the boat which I'll probably get soon. 

    The swtich is definitely a superior design. The pump seems to work well, 
outside of a second pump I don't see away around the backwash if I'm not 
willing to have some kind of one way valve.. 

    Quite the conundrum this one. .

    -Francois Rivard
    1990 34+ "Take Five"
    Lake Lanier, Georgia









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