Burt
I use the same rigger as Petar and I must say he is top shelf. I had
the mast taken down at a marina near Fall River and He took the whole mast and
all the rigging to his shop to inspect and replace what was needed. Best money
I ever spent knowing that the rig is in good shape.
Gary Kolc
"Liberty"
38' MK II (or MK I I
really don't know)
---- Burt Stratton via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote:
> Petar,
>
>
>
> I will be removing my mast this fall when I haul the boat. I have no
> knowledge of the history of maintenance on my rig and would like to have a
> competent rigger take a look at it for me. For all I know everything on the
> boat is original equipment, thus it is 40 years old. I have all rod rigging
> except the forestay and baby stay and, of course my two runners. You
> mentioned a rigger in Fall River that is the original C&C rigger. I would
> appreciate the contact info. If you want to send it off list, me email
> address is [email protected].
>
>
>
> Are there any other owners of the 33 foot ¾ tonner on this list? I dont
> know how many were built or for how long. Mine was built in 1974. It is not
> well suited for cruising and frankly the layout is pretty sparse for a 33
> foot hull but I love the way she sails.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Burt
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Petar
> Horvatic via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 9:11 AM
> To: 'Ron Casciato'; [email protected]; 'Dennis C.'
> Subject: Re: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging
>
>
>
> A lot of people dont like the rod, but there are few nice things about it.
> For instance, it does not let water in like the wire braid does at the
> swage. So there is no oxygen depleted water inside the fitting. Unlike the
> swage, where you never know the conditions of stainless inside, rod is
> easily inspected by disassembling the stem balls from the turnbuckles or
> tangs, provided they are not galled. If you read up about it a bit, you
> can magnaflux them for cracks and determine what needs replacement. Tricky
> part with rod is cold-forming the stem balls without cracks. As Dennis
> said, re-heading. Not many riggers can do it. And if it forms with cracks
> after a few tries, you pretty much have to throw away the length of the stay
> and start over. Ive seen few rod-rig boats with spreaders that are
> asymmetrical or not bisecting the shrouds. I suspect for this very reason.
>
>
> If you decide to go with this boat, and if you need someone, Ill send you
> the contact of original C&C rigger, he is in Fall River. I had him come by
> after I got nowhere with Hall Spars(besides giving them a lot of money). My
> rig was in the cradle one summer and we went over a lot of the points. I
> ended doing a lot of the work myself and he came by after to inspect it.
> He also provided all the parts I needed so I didnt have to spend too much
> time researching components. This was back in 06 and I am getting ready to
> take the mast down this fall again after close to 10k miles and 8 years.
>
> Either you spent a lot of money for someone else to deal with issues on your
> boat, or you spend your own time to learn and know how to inspect, replace
> and maintain your own systems. Rig is no exception. It requires attention
> to detail and mistakes can be devastating. But so can be mistakes with many
> other boat systems.
>
>
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>
> Petar Horvatic
>
> Sundowner
>
> 76 C&C 38MkII
>
> Newport, RI
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> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron
> Casciato via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:51 PM
> To: 'Dennis C.'; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging
>
>
>
> David: Just my 2 cents worth
..
>
>
>
> Since youre in Newport RI, you have way more rigging expertise at your
> fingertips than most of us on this list
.Newport is full of competition
> boats and riggers and such. Find someone local and have them look at the
> rig.
>
>
>
> MY 38MKIIC is a 1977 vintage and has the original rod rigging that came with
> the boat. My mast is, however, a Stearns mast instead of the standard C&C
> one. I have had my mast down several times in the past 16 years of
> ownership and Ive also had the rigging checked each time. Regardless of
> mast manufacturer, rod rigging is still a better option from my
> perspective
>
>
>
> To date (now Ive really jinxed it) it is in fine shape and I expect it to
> last a long time.
>
>
>
> We race this boat so it gets more stress than usual cruising does and still
> the rod is intact and healthy.
>
>
>
> Just for thought
.
>
>
>
> Ron C.
>
> Impromptu
>
> C&C 38MKIIC
.77
>
>
>
> Incidentally
..they are making new C&Cs right down the road from Newport
> and you might drop in there to get an opinion
.Principles there were
> related to the C&C production effort in RI back in the day
they should be
> great resources for you locally
.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 10:57 AM
> To: David Dawes; CnClist
> Subject: Re: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging
>
>
>
> David,
>
> If you're looking at reheading all the rigging, think about pulling the rig,
> removing all the shrouds, coiling them up and taking them to a NavTec shop.
> You can coil the rod to no LESS than 200 times diameter and strap it to an
> "X" made of 2 x 4's for transport. UPS will ship it.
>
> You didn't say where you were. There may be a NavTec shop near you. Throw
> it in a pickup and drive it there.
>
>
>
> Before you coil it, make a list of each rod and carefully measure the pin to
> pin distance. That is, between the centers of the hole in each end. Also
> measure the pin diameters. Now you have a record of the rig.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 7:19 AM, David Dawes via CnC-List
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi, can someone tell me how to reply to a thread? Sorry, I cant figure it
> out. So I started a new one.
>
>
>
>
>
> Next I looked at a 1984 CNC 35 M3 yesterday. Concerned about the rod
> rigging. This boat is run down so I dont expect a record of rigging
> inspection or service.
>
>
>
> A rigger friend recommended full replacement.
>
>
>
> Is this correct? And what are alternatives? What is a rod replacement cost
> approx? And is a wire replacement smart/ advisable/ cost effective or too
> heavy? Technology has moved ahead in 30 years.
>
>
>
> I love the boat layout etc. But suspect rigging will kill my offshore
> pleasure!
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
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> David.
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> David Dawes
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> Captain
>
> Newport, RI, USA
>
> +1(401)5854942 <tel:%2B1%28401%295854942>
>
> [email protected]
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