Rob, you seem to have done well with your Michigan 32 purhase in every dimension - but particularly impressive was the price of the survey - I had one done in 2004 that cost about double that and was worth almost nothing.
Roger Ware Kingston, ON -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott via CnC-List Sent: October-28-14 10:36 PM To: Martin DeYoung; [email protected] Subject: Stus-List Overpriced now surveyors Martin: We are probably referring to the same surveyor, Peter Knonich (if my spelling is correct, probably not)...former US Naval Officer, naval architect. from Sheboygan. He surveyed our boat in March 2006. The seller's broker said he was 'older than dirt' but could 'pick pepper out of fly s__t'. The surveyor even went to a sail loft to inventory and inspect the sails listed which he did not have to do. I had a good feeling I had chosen a surveyor that was going to tell me what I needed to hear not what I wanted to hear. I traded several emails and spoke with him on the telephone several times. In very simple terms, he told me that the boat had no significant issues. As his reputation would have it (pick pepper out of fly s__t) he said a switch in the engine compartment was missing the red plastic tip. And I would like to put this out there, there are honest sellers' broker(s). The seller's broker in Racine I dealt with would not recommend a surveyor to me....... I admit it, I was stupid and asked him for one......he refused...said get your own.....gave me the website for the US Accredited Marine Surveyors' ....looked at those close to Racine and the CV of Peter Kronich looked good to me. When our boat arrived by truck from Racine to Hfx. (actually via Chester first, don't ask) late on Friday afternoon and I met it and climbed aboard for the first time, my $350 USD survey fee was well worth it. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. 4/10/28 2:40 PM, Martin DeYoung wrote: > Rob, > > If your surveyor "Peter K" was from Sheboygan, he surveyed Calypso before we made an offer. He used that line "picking fly sh*t out of pepper" on me when I interrogated him on several issues / differences between what I observed during my inspection and what he reported. > > He did prepare a detailed report that assisted in making the purchased decision. He looked to be in his 70's back in 1998. When did you use him? > > Martin > Calypso > 1971 C&C 43 > Seattle > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Robert Abbott via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 7:36 PM > To: Jon Tasker; [email protected] > Subject: Stus-List Overpriced > > Jon, > Maybe the difference in our experiences buying a boat was that you said you received a survey "from a recommended surveyor". Recommended by whom....the seller's broker? > > My surveyor was 'not recommended'......I chose him myself. When I notified the seller's broker, the broker said to me on the telephone "Oh no, tell me I don't have to deal with Peter K____th, he can pick pepper out of fly sh_t". I chose the surveyor myself from the US Accredited Marine Surveyors (probably got their association name wrong, but you all know what I am talking about) . > > I had a completely different experience than you did, maybe because my surveyor 'did not have the seller's interest in mind'. > > My surveyor had my interests in mind. I made sure of that! Sounds like yours did not. Sorry to hear that, you will know better next time around. > > > Rob Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32 - 84 > Halifax, N.S. > > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: [email protected] To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: [email protected] To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
