My LF38 has the QM series. But it is also hull #4. I am not sure when they 
quit using the QM. Doug MountjoyS/V PegasusShilshole bay marinaSeattle.
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------ Original message------From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Date: Tue, Dec 2, 
2014 19:55To: Patrick Davin;C&C List;Subject:Re: Stus-List LF38 engine access - 
how bad is it really?The difference between the GM and HM are negligible.  
Most/many parts are interchangeable.  The HM only came in 3 cylinders and had a 
slightly higher power rating.  The F designation means that it has a glycol 
(fresh water) coolant system and heat exchanger.  The GM came in 1, 2 and 3 
cylinder versions in which parts were directly interchangeable.  Visually I 
believe all of the GMs have a place where a handle can be attached to the front 
of the engine to presumably hand crank.  I have a Yanmar service manual that 
covers all of the HM and GM variants.Not sure about the QM.As for access I 
enjoy 3 sides but could survive comfortably with just front and back.  Front 
alone would be quite challenging. Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Yanmar 3HM35F
Solomons, MDOn Dec 2, 2014 10:40 PM, "Patrick Davin via CnC-List" 
<[email protected]> wrote:
I took a look at a Landfall 38 last week, and yeah it's pretty bad (engine 
access). But does it actually prevent you from doing any critical tasks or is 
it more of a nuisance? 
Also anyone know the differences between the Yanmar 3QM30F, 3HM30F, and 3GM, 
either in terms of size (access) or power / longevity? 
The boat I looked at had the engine recorded as HM, as either a correction or 
upgrade (to a survey which indicated it was QM), but the owner said on this 
forum (a few years ago) that it came with a GM. The broker said it has the 
original engine. So this is very confusing/misleading, but will try to clarify 
with broker which it actually is. 

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