Don't forget about the "Parking hook", otherwise known as an anchor.
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.
------ Original message------From: Marek Fluder via CnC-ListDate: Fri, May 15,
2015 07:51To: [email protected];Cc: Marek Fluder;Subject:Re: Stus-List Rig
- crack -> termsDennis,
This made a laugh of the day for me.Do you have any more of those?Love this
list!
MarekC320 in Hamilton
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <[email protected]>
wrote:
Russ,
So calling a halyard an "uppy downy" line and a sheet an "inny outy" line
doesn't work? :)
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:12 AM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rob,
I can understand your confusion with a term you are comfortable using asit was
provided by a rigger you trust. My intention is not to belittleyou or anybody
else but to point out to everybody when I see littlethings start to get outta
place. My assumed role is to nudge them back togoodness again.
You might have noticed I deleted all reference to you in my reply to-> terms.
But seriously... providing copy from a mega-store discount website is notthe
best tactic to dissuade me.. This is precisely how terms get misusedand into
the mainstream in the first place.
If these guys used tie-bar instead of throughbolt & compression tubes(check the
flange bushings for repair) :
http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Tangs-complete/Tangs-complete.htm
Or this British guy who is still using looped eyes and admonishing hispeers for
worrying if an unshouldered mast band is even practical. Hereferences the late
great Herreshof on the wonders ofthrough-bolting.
http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/articles/Gaffergear/lugs/Mastbands.PDF
Then I might call, "Uncle!"
My references are mostly on paper, like a library, and include favouritessuch
as Bruce Bingham, Bob Perry & Brion Toss. I'm slowly catching upon Ted Brewer's
works since he moved to a nearby island.
I have a story with a trusted rigger to share.
When replacing the gang on Sweet, we got the cap shrouds &forestay done (with
Harken furler rehab) and set about to do the lowers.Oops, his stock didn't have
the correct size. "No problem." hesays, "I'll upgrade you, up one size at no
cost."
"No thanks." says I, "When will the right size behere?"
You see, a rigging wire too big is no better than a rigging wire toosmall and
my trusted professional couldn't see that because he works fora living and in
this case it probably would not have made any differenceand most customers
would appreciate getting a more expensive product forthe same price even if it
didn't do the job as well.
Humans are kinda funny in a way.
That's probably enough for now, unless someone wishes to get me startedon the
oxymoron cutter-ketch.
Cheers,Russ
Sweet35 mk-1
VancouverIsland
At 07:06 PM 14/05/2015, you wrote:
Russ:
I too like to use the appropriate nautical term. When we putthe standing
rigging together for the first time after purchasing theboat, we discovered the
top 'aluminum 'through-bolt, 'stud' or 'tie bar'as the rigger from North Sails
called it was approx. half worn through bythe wire from the main halyard.
This yacht shop in the below website advertises what we are talking aboutas a
'TIE BAR' and "threaded at 12mm at both ends"....pic isnot of a 'tie bar'
obviously.
http://www.marinemegastore.com/product-TIE-BAR-UNI_533100.htm
And yes, we have the compression tube inside the mast .....we used theoriginal
one with a new SS piece of metal, whatever it is called, to holdthe tangs
together.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S
On 2015-05-14 3:01 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List wrote:
A little term bitchin' here.
The threaded thingy that goes inside the mast to hold the tangs tight isa
called through-bolt (even though in most cases it is a stud) not atie-bar. And
it goes inside a compression tube so it can be properlytightened without
deflecting the mast sides towards each other. Thecompression tube was
especially important in wooden masts to preventmovement and elongation of holes.
I may be pissin in the wind here and I concede most people use the termsalon
instead of saloon, but I endeavour to preserve to use of as manyother old terms
as I can.
Cheers,Russ
Sweet35 mk-1
VancouverIsland
At 07:24 AM 14/05/2015, you wrote:
Mike et al:
....the most difficult one is getting the cap shroud in its tang and thenscrew
the tang into the tie bar inside the mast.....the shroud and thetang have to
rotate as one.
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