Hi I am the proud new owner of a C&C 36 and the windows leak quite badly. In my old Tanzer 8.5 they were easy to Rebed as there were frames. It appears on the 36 the windows are sandwiched between the outer and inner cabin top. I would rather do this correctly as opposed to a temporary fix.
Thanks Adam Hayden Halifax NS. Sent from my iPhone > On May 25, 2015, at 12:18 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Best wishes to Rich (Hoyt, Mike) > 2. Re: Antifreeze Mystery (Glenn) > 3. Re: Best wishes to Rich (Knowles Rich) > 4. Re: Darker Smoke, Harder to Start (Marek Dziedzic) > 5. Re: Antifreeze Mystery (Marek Dziedzic) > 6. Re: Best wishes to Rich (Wally Bryant) > 7. Re: Darker Smoke, Harder to Start (Fred Hazzard) > 8. Re: Best wishes to Rich (Knowles Rich) > 9. C&C 32 For Sale (Harry Hallgring) > 10. Re: Best wishes to Rich (Hoyt, Mike) > 11. Re: Antifreeze Mystery (Marek Fluder) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 12:34:26 +0000 > From: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Best wishes to Rich > Message-ID: > <169e312f80b4c044be2dc1780a7de72f0ad...@hfxexc11.impgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Rich > > Ran into Barry Clarke yesterday at the club. He is very happy with Indigo > and says he sailed on it quite a bit last year and before that. > > He is itching to get it launched! > > For any who do not know Barry?s claim to fame was as a goalie in the > Rockingham Minor Hockey system on our Pee Wee and Atom ?A? teams. He also > had a C&C 33-2 for many years. .. and oh yeah ? he is also known for being a > well respected Doctor of medicine > > Mike > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Knowles > Rich via CnC-List > Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 2:31 AM > To: cnc-list Cnc-List > Cc: Knowles Rich > Subject: Re: Stus-List Best wishes to Rich > > Thanks, Russ! > > Yep, it?s all over. Money in the bank and some already spent. Not sure what?s > next. We?ll see. Meantime, I?m hanging out here unless I?m kicked off. > > Cheers > > Rich > > Rich Knowles > Nanaimo, BC > INDIGO LF38 > Boatless! > > > On May 22, 2015, at 22:24, Russ & Melody via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > > Hi Rich, > > Best wishes on the second or third happiest day of your life. (Wedding days > are currently under discussion at the institute.) > > Can we assume the sale is final? > > Cheers, Russ > Sweet 35 mk-1 > > > At 10:05 PM 22/05/2015, you wrote: > > Pretty much every marine engine has a connector or two in the engine/panel > wiring harness. They are there to make installation convenient at the > factory, but, after a few years, can cause a lot of problems as corrosion and > wear set in. I???ve seen electrical problems on every size of boat regardless > of make or engine type that bypassing these connectors has frequently cured. > I suggest cutting out the connectors and splicing the individual wires > together using top quality heat shrink crimp butt connectors. In the event > that the engine has to be serviced, removed, or replaced, the wires can be > severed and rejoined as needed. > > I???m not sure that this is the root of your problems but it???s a good place > to start. > > Rich Knowles > Nanaimo, BC > Boatless. > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150525/496d2944/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 12:58:26 +0000 > From: Glenn <ggam...@charter.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery > Message-ID: <em1aa96cc8-f079-4525-ba8d-0e906fa28629@glenn-pc> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 > > I discovered that the radiator cap on the after market heat exchanger > was worn and allowing anti-freeze to escape when the engine heated up. > Replaced the radiator cap with a new one and it seems to have solved > that problem. I too had drain valves that would mysteriously open. > Solved that problem first, but the problem persisted and found the > radiator cap issue. Gremlins pop up in many places. > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "robert via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: "robert" <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> > Sent: 5/24/2015 9:24:58 PM > Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery > >> John: >> >> Thank you ....both good tips...your first one could be the culprit but >> your second one could also be the culprit.....the antifreeze (Preston) >> is approx. 8 years old....I will flush and replace it before Fall layup >> and see what happens. As I said earlier, it does not happen after >> launch and before haul....just during the cold of winter. >> >> A few years back, one of the engine block antifreeze drain valves came >> loose during the sailing & motoring season which was noticed when >> antifreeze entered the bilge....a little stress until the loose valve >> was detected. Some times we get lucky! >> >> Rob Abbott >> AZURA >> C&C 32 - 84 >> Halifax, N.S. >> >> >> >>> On 2015-05-24 3:33 PM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote: >>> Check to insure your engine block drain valves are tight before winter >>> storage. Second thought is weird but offered anyhow. Is antifreeze >>> fresh? >>> Could there be a blockage somewhere where the antifreeze is diluted >>> and >>> freezes which would expand and force the top stuff out somehow. I said >>> it >>> was a weird thought! I will discuss it with the mechanic at the yard >>> who is >>> pretty sharp and seen most things. >>> >>> John >>> C&C 32 >>> Arpeggio >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of >>> robert >>> via CnC-List >>> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:25 AM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Cc: robert >>> Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery >>> >>> After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan >>> under >>> it.....not sure why but I do. Every Spring, there is approximately a >>> half a >>> cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan. >>> >>> I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I can't >>> find >>> out where it is coming from. The boat was launched 3 weeks ago, the >>> engine >>> has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is still under the engine >>> but >>> there is no antifreeze in it. And the antifreeze does not appear >>> during the >>> sailing season. >>> >>> I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow >>> container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that >>> container >>> is not leaking. It's a mystery! >>> >>> Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze >>> could be >>> originating from? >>> >>> Rob Abbott >>> AZURA >>> C&C 32 - 84 >>> Halifax, N.S. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom >>> of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 06:15:07 -0700 > From: Knowles Rich <r...@sailpower.ca> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Best wishes to Rich > Message-ID: <9961c18b-f944-457c-a85e-87aa601ae...@sailpower.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks Mike. He's a great guy, and his medical skills are to blame for my > continuing existence. I'm glad he bought her. > > I just gotta figger what I'm doing now. We got together with Russ and Melodie > yesterday for a chat on their 35 mk1 on which he has done a great > refurbishing job. Finally got to meet him after many years of chatting on > this forum. Another great guy with a terrific partner. It's the C&C influence! > > Rich > >> On May 25, 2015, at 05:34, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> >> Rich >> >> Ran into Barry Clarke yesterday at the club. He is very happy with Indigo >> and says he sailed on it quite a bit last year and before that. >> >> He is itching to get it launched! >> >> For any who do not know Barry?s claim to fame was as a goalie in the >> Rockingham Minor Hockey system on our Pee Wee and Atom ?A? teams. He also >> had a C&C 33-2 for many years. .. and oh yeah ? he is also known for being >> a well respected Doctor of medicine >> >> Mike >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Knowles >> Rich via CnC-List >> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 2:31 AM >> To: cnc-list Cnc-List >> Cc: Knowles Rich >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Best wishes to Rich >> >> Thanks, Russ! >> >> Yep, it?s all over. Money in the bank and some already spent. Not sure >> what?s next. We?ll see. Meantime, I?m hanging out here unless I?m kicked off. >> >> Cheers >> >> Rich >> >> Rich Knowles >> Nanaimo, BC >> INDIGO LF38 >> Boatless! >> >> >> >> On May 22, 2015, at 22:24, Russ & Melody via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Rich, >> >> Best wishes on the second or third happiest day of your life. (Wedding days >> are currently under discussion at the institute.) >> >> Can we assume the sale is final? >> >> Cheers, Russ >> Sweet 35 mk-1 >> >> >> At 10:05 PM 22/05/2015, you wrote: >> >> Pretty much every marine engine has a connector or two in the engine/panel >> wiring harness. They are there to make installation convenient at the >> factory, but, after a few years, can cause a lot of problems as corrosion >> and wear set in. I???ve seen electrical problems on every size of boat >> regardless of make or engine type that bypassing these connectors has >> frequently cured. I suggest cutting out the connectors and splicing the >> individual wires together using top quality heat shrink crimp butt >> connectors. In the event that the engine has to be serviced, removed, or >> replaced, the wires can be severed and rejoined as needed. >> >> I???m not sure that this is the root of your problems but it???s a good >> place to start. >> >> Rich Knowles >> Nanaimo, BC >> Boatless. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom >> of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom >> of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150525/42ec9147/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 10:10:39 -0400 > From: "Marek Dziedzic" <dziedzi...@hotmail.com> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start > Message-ID: <blu184-ds22feafeedbaaa651b4bc5dce...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > most of the engine oils that are available today have plenty of additives > that get bad or ineffective after about 6 month in the engine. So if you are > using the engine year round, you might consider changing the oil twice a year > (at least once a year) and if you are using it less (even if you use it for > just a few hours each year), change it annually. For us, Northern folks, this > usually mean changing it in the fall. From what I read around, there are > people who change the oil in the fall and again in the spring. I don?t, but I > can understand the reasoning behind it. > > I hate throwing out the good engine oil after some 25-50 h of running time, > but this is a cheap insurance for the engine. > > Marek > 1994 C270, Legato > Ottawa, on > > From: Sam Salter via CnC-List > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 9:11 PM > To: Jim Watts via CnC-List ; 1 CnC List > Cc: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start > > Diesel engine oil is supposed to look black - it's like that a half hour > after you start the engine - by design. > sam :-) > From: Jim Watts via CnC-List > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 6:48 PM > To: 1 CnC List > Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Jim Watts > Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start > > > It's black. > > > Jim Watts > Paradigm Shift > C&C 35 Mk III > Victoria, BC > > > On 24 May 2015 at 16:59, Sam Salter via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > What does bad lubrication oil look like? > sam :-) > From: S Thomas via CnC-List > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 5:01 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: S Thomas > Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start > > > If it is cranking at the usual speed, then the compression might be off a > bit in one of the cylinders. This can happen if one of the piston rings has > got stuck over the winter. I would warm up the engine good and hot and then > take for a run. Run it fairly hard for a couple of hours so long as > everything appears to be ok. That should get the carbon out, if there is any, > and it might loosen up a seized ring. > > Black smoke is a sign of a rich mix, but it means little if you have just > started the engine after a period of cranking it for a while. > > If you did not change the oil last fall, then now is the time to change it. > I don't know why, but I have found that lubricating oil sitting for a while > in diesel engines is more likely to go bad than in gasoline engines. Maybe it > is climate dependent, but that has been my experience limited though that may > be. > > Steve Thomas > C&C27 MKIII > Port Stanley, ON > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List > To: cnc-list Cnc-List > Cc: Edd Schillay > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 18:07 > Subject: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start > > Listers, > > I find I'm having a harder time getting the engine started and seeing a > little bit of darker smoke when it does turn over, as compared to last > season. > > Once running, everything seems fine -- temperature, water flow, > revolutions, etc. > > Any ideas or suggestions? > > Usually, my solution to engine problems is "get the jib out." > > > > All the best, > > Edd > > ------------------------------- > Edd M. Schillay > Starship Enterprise > NCC-1701-B > C&C 37+ | City Island, NY > www.StarshipSailing.com > ------------------------------- > 914.332.4400 | Office > 914.774.9767 | Mobile > ------------------------------- > Sent via iPhone 6 > iPhone. iTypos. iApologize > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150525/6741a152/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 10:14:22 -0400 > From: "Marek Dziedzic" <dziedzi...@hotmail.com> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery > Message-ID: <blu184-ds28f45737f46b1178bd116ce...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > when you replaced the radiator cap, was it a 7 psi or 15 psi one? > > Marek > > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 8:58 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Glenn > Subject: Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery > > I discovered that the radiator cap on the after market heat exchanger > was worn and allowing anti-freeze to escape when the engine heated up. > Replaced the radiator cap with a new one and it seems to have solved > that problem. I too had drain valves that would mysteriously open. > Solved that problem first, but the problem persisted and found the > radiator cap issue. Gremlins pop up in many places. > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "robert via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: "robert" <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> > Sent: 5/24/2015 9:24:58 PM > Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery > >> John: >> >> Thank you ....both good tips...your first one could be the culprit but your >> second one could also be the culprit.....the antifreeze (Preston) is >> approx. 8 years old....I will flush and replace it before Fall layup and >> see what happens. As I said earlier, it does not happen after launch and >> before haul....just during the cold of winter. >> >> A few years back, one of the engine block antifreeze drain valves came >> loose during the sailing & motoring season which was noticed when >> antifreeze entered the bilge....a little stress until the loose valve was >> detected. Some times we get lucky! >> >> Rob Abbott >> AZURA >> C&C 32 - 84 >> Halifax, N.S. >> >> >> >>> On 2015-05-24 3:33 PM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote: >>> Check to insure your engine block drain valves are tight before winter >>> storage. Second thought is weird but offered anyhow. Is antifreeze fresh? >>> Could there be a blockage somewhere where the antifreeze is diluted and >>> freezes which would expand and force the top stuff out somehow. I said it >>> was a weird thought! I will discuss it with the mechanic at the yard who >>> is >>> pretty sharp and seen most things. >>> >>> John >>> C&C 32 >>> Arpeggio >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert >>> via CnC-List >>> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:25 AM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Cc: robert >>> Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery >>> >>> After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan under >>> it.....not sure why but I do. Every Spring, there is approximately a half >>> a >>> cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan. >>> >>> I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I can't >>> find >>> out where it is coming from. The boat was launched 3 weeks ago, the >>> engine >>> has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is still under the engine but >>> there is no antifreeze in it. And the antifreeze does not appear during >>> the >>> sailing season. >>> >>> I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow >>> container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that >>> container >>> is not leaking. It's a mystery! >>> >>> Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze could >>> be >>> originating from? >>> >>> Rob Abbott >>> AZURA >>> C&C 32 - 84 >>> Halifax, N.S. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom >>> of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 14:33:28 +0000 > From: Wally Bryant <w...@wbryant.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Best wishes to Rich > Message-ID: <556332b8.30...@wbryant.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Get another C&C? > > Rich wrote: >> I just gotta figger what I'm doing now. <snip> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 08:03:11 -0700 > From: Fred Hazzard <fshazz...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start > Message-ID: > <CAN6MigZLM7piNJ=3+7jq=bKFjRXQwFj=a-kra5txopn33as...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > What do the experts say about synthetic oil in diesels? > > Fred Hazzard > S/V Fury > C&C 44 > Portland, Or > On May 25, 2015 7:10 AM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> most of the engine oils that are available today have plenty of >> additives that get bad or ineffective after about 6 month in the engine. So >> if you are using the engine year round, you might consider changing the oil >> twice a year (at least once a year) and if you are using it less (even if >> you use it for just a few hours each year), change it annually. For us, >> Northern folks, this usually mean changing it in the fall. From what I read >> around, there are people who change the oil in the fall and again in the >> spring. I don?t, but I can understand the reasoning behind it. >> >> I hate throwing out the good engine oil after some 25-50 h of running >> time, but this is a cheap insurance for the engine. >> >> Marek >> 1994 C270, Legato >> Ottawa, on >> >> *From:* Sam Salter via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2015 9:11 PM >> *To:* Jim Watts via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> ; 1 CnC List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Cc:* sam.c.sal...@gmail.com >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start >> >> Diesel engine oil is supposed to look black - it's like that a half hour >> after you start the engine - by design. >> sam :-) >> *From: *Jim Watts via CnC-List >> *Sent: *Sunday, May 24, 2015 6:48 PM >> *To: *1 CnC List >> *Reply To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Cc: *Jim Watts >> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start >> >> It's black. >> >> Jim Watts >> Paradigm Shift >> C&C 35 Mk III >> Victoria, BC >> >> On 24 May 2015 at 16:59, Sam Salter via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> >>> What does bad lubrication oil look like? >>> sam :-) >>> *From: *S Thomas via CnC-List >>> *Sent: *Sunday, May 24, 2015 5:01 PM >>> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> *Reply To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> *Cc: *S Thomas >>> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start >>> >>> If it is cranking at the usual speed, then the compression might be off >>> a bit in one of the cylinders. This can happen if one of the piston rings >>> has got stuck over the winter. I would warm up the engine good and hot and >>> then take for a run. Run it fairly hard for a couple of hours so long as >>> everything appears to be ok. That should get the carbon out, if there is >>> any, and it might loosen up a seized ring. >>> >>> Black smoke is a sign of a rich mix, but it means little if you have just >>> started the engine after a period of cranking it for a while. >>> >>> If you did not change the oil last fall, then now is the time to change >>> it. I don't know why, but I have found that lubricating oil sitting for a >>> while in diesel engines is more likely to go bad than in gasoline engines. >>> Maybe it is climate dependent, but that has been my experience limited >>> though that may be. >>> >>> Steve Thomas >>> C&C27 MKIII >>> Port Stanley, ON >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Edd Schillay via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> *To:* cnc-list Cnc-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> *Cc:* Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2015 18:07 >>> *Subject:* Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start >>> >>> Listers, >>> >>> I find I'm having a harder time getting the engine started and seeing a >>> little bit of darker smoke when it does turn over, as compared to last >>> season. >>> >>> Once running, everything seems fine -- temperature, water flow, >>> revolutions, etc. >>> >>> Any ideas or suggestions? >>> >>> Usually, my solution to engine problems is "get the jib out." >>> >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Edd >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> Edd M. Schillay >>> Starship Enterprise >>> NCC-1701-B >>> C&C 37+ | City Island, NY >>> www.StarshipSailing.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> 914.332.4400 | Office >>> 914.774.9767 | Mobile >>> ------------------------------- >>> Sent via iPhone 6 >>> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize >>> ------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150525/31e67de5/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 08:08:49 -0700 > From: Knowles Rich <r...@sailpower.ca> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Best wishes to Rich > Message-ID: <45525238-7c87-4294-bdea-05d0ecb5a...@sailpower.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Looking at a 30 today. Looks pretty decent from the exterior. A4. > > RK > >> On May 25, 2015, at 07:33, Wally Bryant via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> >> Get another C&C? >> >> Rich wrote: >>> I just gotta figger what I'm doing now. <snip> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom >> of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 11:12:35 -0400 > From: Harry Hallgring <hhallgr...@icloud.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List C&C 32 For Sale > Message-ID: <0f6ae9c6-4a30-459d-9a3d-a33cd9bee...@icloud.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > A friend of mine looked at She Worthy in Boston yesterday. Does anyone know > any particulars of the boat? > > Harry > Mirage > Newport > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 7, 2015, at 15:12, Frederick G Street via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> For those with Raymarine a, c or e Series MFDs, Raymarine released a new >> version of software today; it includes some nice features for you racers out >> there: >> >> http://www.raymarine.co.uk/view/?id=12259 >> >> >> >> Fred Street -- Minneapolis >> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom >> of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150525/82203cb7/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 15:14:11 +0000 > From: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Best wishes to Rich > Message-ID: > <169e312f80b4c044be2dc1780a7de72f0ad...@hfxexc11.impgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Rich > > Get one with an engine that needs a bit of tuning. That way you can spend a > summer working on it and keep us updated .... > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Knowles > Rich via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 12:09 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Knowles Rich > Subject: Re: Stus-List Best wishes to Rich > > Looking at a 30 today. Looks pretty decent from the exterior. A4. > > RK > >> On May 25, 2015, at 07:33, Wally Bryant via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> >> Get another C&C? >> >> Rich wrote: >>> I just gotta figger what I'm doing now. <snip> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom >> of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 11:18:05 -0400 > From: Marek Fluder <mar...@gmail.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery > Message-ID: > <cah_l7ecuv5ftwvjbclkz7viw52ionayq8x6f6oxc0twcfdn...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Rob, > > I have noticed leaks of the antifreeze throughout last winter as well. (1st > winter with the new to me boat, Yanmar 3ym30, extended life antifreeze). > All was fine in the previous summer. > Some hoses carrying the antifreeze needed to be tightened up and the leaks > went away. > The coldness causes the nipple/hose seal not to be as tight as it is in > warmer temperatures. > > Marek > C320 > Hamilton, ON > > > > On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 9:24 PM, robert via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > >> John: >> >> Thank you ....both good tips...your first one could be the culprit but >> your second one could also be the culprit.....the antifreeze (Preston) is >> approx. 8 years old....I will flush and replace it before Fall layup and >> see what happens. As I said earlier, it does not happen after launch and >> before haul....just during the cold of winter. >> >> A few years back, one of the engine block antifreeze drain valves came >> loose during the sailing & motoring season which was noticed when >> antifreeze entered the bilge....a little stress until the loose valve was >> detected. Some times we get lucky! >> >> Rob Abbott >> AZURA >> C&C 32 - 84 >> Halifax, N.S. >> >> >> >>> On 2015-05-24 3:33 PM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote: >>> >>> Check to insure your engine block drain valves are tight before winter >>> storage. Second thought is weird but offered anyhow. Is antifreeze fresh? >>> Could there be a blockage somewhere where the antifreeze is diluted and >>> freezes which would expand and force the top stuff out somehow. I said it >>> was a weird thought! I will discuss it with the mechanic at the yard who >>> is >>> pretty sharp and seen most things. >>> >>> John >>> C&C 32 >>> Arpeggio >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert >>> via CnC-List >>> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:25 AM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Cc: robert >>> Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery >>> >>> After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan under >>> it.....not sure why but I do. Every Spring, there is approximately a >>> half a >>> cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan. >>> >>> I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I can't >>> find >>> out where it is coming from. The boat was launched 3 weeks ago, the >>> engine >>> has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is still under the engine but >>> there is no antifreeze in it. And the antifreeze does not appear during >>> the >>> sailing season. >>> >>> I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow >>> container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that >>> container >>> is not leaking. It's a mystery! >>> >>> Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze could >>> be >>> originating from? >>> >>> Rob Abbott >>> AZURA >>> C&C 32 - 84 >>> Halifax, N.S. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom >>> of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150525/30026b0a/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 112, Issue 72 > ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
