Simple Rule of Thumb: If you can't get to max rated RPM, you're over-pitched. 
If you can get higher than max rated RPM, you're under-pitched. 

Alan Bergen 
35 Mk III Thirsty 
Rose City YC 
Portland, OR 

John, Mike and any others with a Yanmar 3GM30F 

What is the make, diameter and pitch of your props, and can you get to the 
one hour rated RPM of 3600? 

Back in 2010 I had an engine overheat alarm and discovered the coolant 
overflow tank was full and had an amount of oily substance mixed in. There 
was very little coolant left in the engine. The mechanic discovered a blown 
head gasket was the cause. The head was sent to a shop to be "rebuilt" and 
a few other parts replaced. 

Last month [just after Edd's engine woes came to light] I had another 
overheat alarm, and again discovered the coolant tank full and the same oil 
mix. Am assuming the head gasket is blown - again. The mechanic has not 
looked at it yet. Obviously, something is "wrong." 

The July edition of Cruising World had a timely article about props and 
stated an over pitched prop puts additional wear on the engine and can lead 
to cavitation. Nothing new there but started a possible theory. I have not 
had dark exhaust so did not think the prop was over-pitched, but there is 
some pitting on the prop blades so maybe there is cavitation and an over 
loaded engine. Also have excessive vibration so the clues seem to be going 
in that direction. I rarely take the engine up to 3000 RPM though did have 
a several hour delivery at 3200 this spring. Have never tried but do not 
think I could get up to 3600. [Have read the Yanmar tach's are not all that 
accurate and have not had the RPM's verified independently.] Still this 
seems to be another indicator the prop may be over pitched. 

I originally had a Martec folding 16 D x 14 P prop though after the lack of 
much reverse led to a "near miss" incident I replaced it in 2002 with a 
Flex-O-Fold with a 16 D x 13 P at the recommendation of Flex o Fold. The 
reduction is 2.61. Am thinking the increased surface area Flex prop is 
overloading the engine even though the pitch was decreased by 1" compared to 
the Martec. 

Anyone have any thoughts? 

Thanks, 
Brian 

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We have Yanmar 3GM30F in our Ferrs 33 which is similar hull shape to 
C&C33-2. We make 6.2 at 2300 RPM and can just squeak out 7.0 at WOT 

Mike 
Persistence 

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HI Brian 

Our 34 has the Yanmar 3GM with Martec folding prop. Clean bottom cruising 
is 5.5, max is about 6. As I recall, your max speed is supposed to be about 
80% of theoretical hull speed with throttle wide open?? Another variable is 
the calibration of the knotometer and if using the GPS the impact of current 


John and Maryann 
Legacy III 
1982 C&C 34 
Noank, CT 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Morrison via CnC-List" <[email protected]> 
To: <[email protected]> 
Cc: "Brian Morrison" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 00:47 
Subject: Stus-List Best Engine? 


> Hello, 
> 
> I often sail with a group of sailors that have more modern and 
> somewhat larger boats than my 1979 C&C34. When there is no wind and we 
> are forced to motor I have difficulty keeping up. With a clean bottom 
> my cruising speed is about 5-5.5 knots. I have an Atomic 4 engine. I'm 
> wondering would 

> a Yanmar or a Westerbeke give me 7+ knots? 
> 
> Brian C. Morrison 




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