Racing C&C 40s back when they were new, in the late 70s/early 80s, we used running backstays. They were used to do two things; stop the mast overbending when you had a lot of permanent backstay on and to stop the mast pumping when beating into a lumpy sea. These days, another use for running backstays on many cruiser/racers (like Swans) is to tension an inner forestay on which a staysail is set. As an aside, what we always refer to as check stays is a second set of runners attached lower on the mast, usually on race boats with less...robust...rigs than ours. These again are mostly used to adjust the bend in the mast as the permanent backstay is tightened. The runners and checks control the shape of the main; it's not uncommon to "invert" the main if you don't have enough tension on the runners and checks when you max out the permanent.
Andy C&C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Jul 29, 2015, at 05:55, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > Dwight > > Yes it does. It seems when c&c started trying to make even more performance > oriented designs later 80s the check stays came out. The 90sboats more so. > Then the tim jacket boats had swept back spreaders and checks went away again. > > I miss my swept back spreaders. I also really miss fractional rig (when I buy > headsails especially) > > Mike > ________________________________________ > From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of dwight veinot via > CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] > Sent: July 28, 2015 5:10 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: dwight veinot > Subject: Re: Stus-List Running Back Stays > > Mike...most older C&C's and especially those designed by Cuthbertson don't > have swepth back spreaders or running backstays and some with over 50 feet of > stick are single spreader...makes life with the rig very easy > > Dwight Veinot > C&C 35 MKII, Alianna > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > d.ve...@bellaliant.net<mailto:d.ve...@bellaliant.net> > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > I think these may be check stays rather than running backs. Running back > stays mostly on fractional rigs and are for downwind sailing as well as trim > upwind. > > Persistence has check stays. We were concerned as you are when we were > looking at boat. Other posters are correct. These are for lumpy seas over 15 > knots to stop mast from pumping. When light we disconnect and attach to > turnbuckles at shrouds. I have a snap shackle to reconnect to blocks on > transom when wind comes up. We also changed the lines in the blocks to > smaller diameter 60 Ft a side so that when using checks we let the line out > downwind rather than disconnecting. These are not the pita we thought they > would be but do add one extra thing to do when in use. > > If all boats were swept back spreaders like cc99 and 115 we would not have > this discussion. > > Mike > Persistence > 1987 Frees 33 > ________________________________________ > From: CnC-List > [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] on > behalf of scott gary via CnC-List > [cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>] > Sent: July 28, 2015 12:21 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: scott gary > Subject: Stus-List Running Back Stays > > Hi All, > > Looking at a 37/40XL and I know they have running back stays, anyone who has > them, are they a pain in the neck, or do you not use them all the time. I am > not planning on doing much racing, mostly cruising. I've heard of people on > other types of boats just removing them all together. > > Thanks, > Scott > C&C 35/3 > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
