David,

 

This doesn't directly answer your question, but I do have some thoughts on
this subject.  We race in a series with all volunteer committee boats and
have dealt with this challenge for years.   Our fleet asks the racing crews
to each run a race on their boat throughout the season rather than having a
dedicated committee boat.  The reward for doing so in our series is a first
place for the week.  Our first place racing boats gets .75 points, and the
committee boat gets 1 point.  That has pretty much eliminated the issue of
recruiting committee boats.  To encourage less experienced boats to run
races, we recorded an audio walkthrough of the start sequence several years
ago.  This was put on our website as an MP3 file and burned to CD's.  It
goes through the sequence in real time, preparing the racing crew for
raising the right flag at the right time.  It's not on the site at the
moment because we cut back to three divisions from 4 this year, but I can
probably get a copy if you are interested.  Finally, our racing manual has a
pretty thorough discussion of how to run the race.  That is on the site
here:  http://www.mastracing.org/resources.  The result of all this is that
we have a lot of racers who have a better understanding of what it takes to
run a race and also more knowledge of the rules.  It's not a system for
everyone, but has worked well for us.

 

Regards,

 

Jim Reinardy

C&C 30-2 "Firewater"

Milwaukee, WI 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David
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Cc: David Donnelly <[email protected]>
Subject: Stus-List Off Topic- Automated Race Signals

 

I know this is sailing related but it is not C&C related. We have a fair
number of avid racers on the list and I was hoping for some useful leads.

 

A short background. 

 

I started sailing essentially 3 years ago when we bought our C&C 26.
Although I have only raced in the "fun races" I have been volunteering on
the race committee since joining the club. One problem we have always had is
lack of other volunteers to help run good races, often there would be only 2
of us. One person usually ran the start countdowns and recorded times and I
assisted on line calls and did all the mark setting and adjusting for
changes in wind direction. Being on a lake wind shifts are a regular part of
the day and while not an excessive amount there is almost always adjusting
of the marks. 2 people can manage the duties as long as they know what they
are doing, committee boat and mark boat. The other individual is retiring
from the committee boat duties.

 

I am only talking keelboat PHRF racing, not dingy racing. Series racing we
have 6-8 boats usually and fun races we have 20ish.

 

I have been asked to be fleet captain next year. Having reservations
regarding the ability to get volunteers as I have 3 seasons of experience in
this regard I am trying to think of ways to "automate" the start sequence so
that we can assign other club members to committee boat duty throughout the
season. My thought process being if they are intimidated by racing rules,
having a simple system pushing a button and watching the line is easier to
train and get people acclimated. It also provides consistency to the boats
racing that no one "forgets" the horn because they were talking to someone
else aboard.

 

I realize this may not be official according to the rules but we are not
running the Americas Cup. Having spent some time researching via google
there are some commercial alternatives available, only a few I found in
North America. I am looking for anyone's experience with these devices and
perhaps problems or ones to avoid. My short list of wants:

 

1.       Ability to do a 5,4,1,0 start. 

2.       Easy to use / reset. Push button with its own clock

3.       Connected to lights instead of using flags so all human
intervention is avoided beyond the line observations and recording of time.
I think racers on our lake would accept this as long as they are visible.

4.       Portable, able to be taken ashore and used on different boats. 

5.       12V power

6.       Reasonable cost

 

The lights seem to be a non-standard option on what I found, at least on
this continent, or only on homemade systems.

 

Any leads or links appreciated.

 

Regards

David Donnelly

C&C 26 Mistress

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