Yup did 12.1 knots in a squall in relatively flattish water not surfing. Kept
looking up at the rig praying it wouldn't come down. Lots O' Force there...
David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:39:44 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26 Sail Plan Thoughts!
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: joel.aron...@gmail.com
Nat Herreshoff spoke at my YC when I was a kid. He said he did not believe in
hull speed as a limit. More sail or more wind equals more speed.I was doing
more than hull speed (7.3) while cruising on a reach last weekend and have done
over 8 knots in flat water with the chute.
Joel35/3Annapolis
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
It's theoretical - in real life you can push it a bit!
sam :-)
From: Indigo via CnC-ListSent:
Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:24 AMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To:
cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: IndigoSubject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26 Sail Plan Thoughts!
According to the formula 1.34 x square root of lwl the theoretical max speed of
my 35mkIII with an lwl of 28ft is 7.06 knots. I'd love to know how to get it
going at higher speeds without surfing down the back of a wave!!
--JonathanIndigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT
On Aug 25, 2015, at 08:55, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:
8 knots in a C&C 26 with no current on a reach with white sails in 12 knots of
wind? Sounds more like a 30 one design. Jerry. C&C 27 V J&J.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:15 AM, David Donnelly via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I will preface this by saying I consider myself a beginner hack sailor.
I have often thought about trading my 135 for a 110. The 26 is tender for sure
and I get plenty of grief from my bride whenever we go past 20 degrees. I often
furl or reef the main when she is on board, and although performance increases
the more upright we get, pointing is severely reduced. My favorite sailplan for
over 12 kts is reefed main and full genoa. I do think my boat feels right at 20
to 25 degrees hard on the wind. I have found a bubble in the main to be faster
when the wind picks up. Again, a hack playing and watching the speed.
I have a harken traveler and I do have a split and adjustable backstay.
I have never acheived the speeds you get. I saw over 7.3 kts once on the
display while reaching but as I keep a Navionics log on my tablet as well it
showed only 6.9 per the gps so I count that as my max speed.
When I get new sails I am getting a 110 and perhaps 2 reefs in my main instead
of the one I currently have. I think we're on the same page.
David Donnelly C&C 26 Mistress
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From: Sam Salter via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 08-24-2015 8:34 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Sam Salter <sam.c.sal...@gmail.com>
Subject: Stus-List C&C 26 Sail Plan Thoughts!
I know there’s a few 26 owners on here so thought I’d share my thoughts on
optimizing my sail plan.
Jump in anyone, I’m open to any thoughts!
Was out sailing today, only boat on the lake – I love that! So I thought we’d
play around with the sail plan.
Wind was 8kn -12kn. (Estimate – I usually think if I see the occasional
whitecap it’s around 10kn)
I have a 135% laminate genoa from Evolution Sails in Toronto (2 seasons). A
Dacron main with 2 full and 2 partial battens from Leiche & McBride in
Vancouver (5 seasons).
I have a flexofold prop; 4-1 outhaul; Garhauer genoa cars; Harken traveller;
Cunningham; Garhauer ridged vang; (no backstay adjuster)
The C&C 26 is a tender boat and we were doing about 5.5kn to 6kn beating to
windward at 20deg – 25deg heel. Flattening with the outhaul reduced heel a bit.
(speed measured with a Speed Puck)
Furled the genoa to about 110%. Just brought the leech forward of the spreaders
so no interference.
Boat stood up to 13deg to 16deg. Speed was between 5.8kn – 6.4kn. Went up to
7kn or 8kn in the puffs (theoretical hull speed is 6.2kn) No bubble in the luff
of the main.
Obviously, the furled genoa wasn’t setting great and the starboard tack was
better than port tack. On a beam reach I think she’d do 7kn or 8kn regularly.
So here’s my thoughts:
I’m thinking of getting the genoa recut to a 110% or if that’s not practical
(...and I suspect it isn’t) order a new 110%.
Eventually a new laminate main will be needed too!
I’m well pleased with 6+kns at 10kn of wind and 16deg angle of heel. Very
little weather helm
I’ve not tried it yet with the genoa at 110% in light wind. In heavy air the
main can still be reefed (...as could the 110%).
OK guys, am I missing something?
(I’m not looking for advice on where to buy used sails!)
sam :-)
C&C 26 Liquorice
Ghost Lake Alberta
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