Everything subject to negotiation.  Seller doesn't want to haul for every 
"looker".  I have proposed and had accepted a provision that I pay haul and 
clean if I don't buy the boat, split it if I do. 

Bill Walker



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On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

HI Kurt, 

  

I think it becoming obvious to me that my ability to ask a concise question is, 
well...questionable!  LOL 

  

Anyway,  It had more to do with the responsibily of who should pay for the 
cleaning of sais fouled bottom, not so much whether ot not is should be done.  
Of course you cannot inspect a fouled bottom. 

  

My point is more about why would a seller not want the boat in as good a 
working order as possible.  This would, in fact, make the survey go faster and 
smoother and give everyone involved a better more positive experience.  After 
all, there is a level of subjectivity involved and that is a matter of 
perspective, observation and ease of doing the task at hand.  So, my point 
being, and again this is my limited experience with my own boat shopping for 2 
different boats, why do sellers not spend just a little extra, effort, maybe 
even a little money so that their boats survey as best they can? 

  

I've found now that it is common for the potential buyer to not only go out of 
pocket, on speculation, for not only the survey and haul-out, but also, the 
power-washing of the bottom.  Initially I was thinking that, the haul-out would 
be a couple hundred and then the wash would be another $150 or so...  It not so 
much the dollar value but the principle I question.  

  

It kind of goes along with the theory that "the seller pays the broker fees..." 
 While that may be true, that value is figured into the price, and the buyer is 
the one with the money that ultimately pays those fees.  No buyer, no fees 
paid...  It's ridiculous to separate any fee in a sale from the source of the 
funds that pay the fee!  LOL 

  

Oh Geeze this may now open another can of worms... 

  

Thanks again though for the insights and responses to what is now view by me as 
"a stupid question..."  Not so much for my ignorance in needing to ask it but, 
in my inability to articulate it. 

  

Danny 

---------- Original Message ---------- 

From: Kurt Heckert <kurt_heck...@att.net> 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: djhaug...@juno.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List  Survey Question 
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 03:07:06 -0700 

It is common, the bottom needs cleaning on haul out or you are trying to exam a 
fouled bottom. 


From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>; 
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>; 
Cc: Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com>; 
Subject: Stus-List Survey Question 
Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2015 1:36:17 AM 


Hi Guys, 

  

Okay so I've got a survey with haulout scheduled for this coming Saturday.  
during my conversation with the surveryor, he brought to light an interesting 
point.  I had asked if he would be doing the sea trial before or after haul out 
and he said that it would be better to do it after because if the bottom were 
fouled, we wouldn't bet a good sea trial.  He said if haul first and it is then 
we could get it cleaned, and I asked "so, we could clean it?"  he said well you 
should talk to the broker.  So I did and he said it common practice for the 
boat to be powerwashed on a haul out.  I asked who would pay for that?  He said 
I would be responsible for that.  I said so, if this thing fails inspection, 
I'll paying for the owners powerwashing?  He said that it was common... 

  

I'm thinking what $4 a foot to wash it, then haul it...  I knew I had to pay 
for a haulout, but ...  is that really common to be on the hook for a power 
washing?  I mean it is what it is I've just never seen this conversation come 
up before... 

  

Danny 

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