So, a roll and tip job is cheap and would not be worthy of Awlgrip. Awlcraft is the product I was suggesting for ease of repair. You could probably DIY with a helper or two and get away for less than $1k.
If the bottom doesn't show signs of blistering then i would simply sand and feather the bottom. You're not racing. Wait for blistering to soda or ice blast and new barrier coat. Again less than $1k. Josh On Sep 6, 2015 1:09 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I had Touche' painted with Awlcraft rather than Awlgrip. Easier to blend > and repair than Awlgrip. > > I sanded the topsides and had a pro shoot the paint. Used a Hutchins > Hustler straight line sander. Took 3 coats of high build primer followed > by the Awlcraft. Looks awesome! > > The sander removed all imperfections in the hull. After 40 years, post > cure shrinkage caused the pattern of the roving to show. Now hull is > perfectly smooth. > > Using a disc sander requires a very steady hand and a lot of experience. > Inexperienced operators tend to rock and tilt a disc sander causing small > gouges in the surface. These gouges may be visible with very smooth shiny > paints. > > Dennis C. > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Hi Josh! >> >> In considering topsides to be waterline to toe rail. I honestly would >> prefer gel coat. I don't really understand the rush to paint. Gelcoat >> seems to want to come back to life even after years of neglect. I thought >> that, because she is painted already, I had no choice but to paint again. >> >> Bottom has many layers of bottom paint that are peeling off. I think she >> need a clean start all the way back with barrier coat. >> >> I had this done on Lolita for around $2400 for the 2014 season, if I >> recall properly. I guess that was a great price. I think I paid 800 for >> sandblasting (yep they sandblasted) and then about 1600 for fixes, barrier >> coat and bottom paint. I have to check my files to see how good my memory >> is. I remember they gave me a 15% discount for scheduling and paying a 30% >> deposit. >> >> The top sides on Lolita were painted by a PO and she was rolled and >> tipped and I thought she looked absolutely fine. The hull was white. >> >> Maybe an inexpressive roll and tip job would be an answer to get sailing >> and kick the can down the road a bit...?On Sep 6, 2015 12:11 PM, Josh >> Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> > >> > Danny, >> > >> > When you say topside paint are you talking about the hull (freeboard, >> area between the water and toe rail)? Or are you talking about the deck >> (everything above the toe rail)? Either way you're probably looking at the >> better part of $10k. >> > >> > For hull/freeboard paint I suggest that avoid the original Awlgrip >> (color and clear coat in one shot) since blending a repair is such a >> challenge and costly. The newer Awlgrip 2000 is easier to blend and repair >> and for boats of this age is glossy enough despite not being a color and >> clear coat combo... Just glossy color. Either way you will want to follow >> the manufacturers care instructions closely. You might want to make sure >> your discussion includes re-gelcoating as an alternative to paint. Many >> people discount this as an option but it is one you might not have >> considered. The PO had mine partially re-gelcoated and I'm happy with it's >> appearance and it's care is "normal". Wash, polish, wax. >> > >> > When you say it needs a bottom job, what degree of bottom are you >> referring to. Just a haul, block, and wash with a sand and paint is gonna >> be about $1k. If you soda blast (or dry ice blast) then you're probably >> gonna need a least a little fill and fare and then probably a barrier coat >> and bottom paint which is also gonna push you close to $10k. If you get >> into remediation such as smile and blister repair then you're almost >> guaranteed $10k+ >> > >> > Josh Muckley >> > S/V Sea Hawk >> > 1989 C&C 37+ >> > Solomons, MD >> > >> > On Sep 6, 2015 11:21 AM, "Juno via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Dave, thanks! I've read just about every article on this model and >> have been laying after one but I never thought all the stars would EVER >> align enough to actually own one! >> >> >> >> the wife is not overly enthused about the dark wood interior but she >> couldn't deny the exceptional value of this particular boat. I've got some >> work to do, mostly cosmetic, to make her as beautiful as she should be. >> the biggest issue is topside paint. It has an awlgrip job thats peeling >> terribly. the surveyor was trying to convince me to do it myself and go >> with white fur more forgiveness. I don't think I'd like to take on a job >> like that. It seems to big for one guy to on his own. I guess if I had it >> inside in my back yard all winter I might give it a shot. >> >> >> >> It's also in need of a bottom job. this will be my 3rd boat in >> desperate need of a bottom job. I'm going to try and have those 2 things >> done over this winter if I can get a reasonable price. >> >> >> >> does anyone have any idea what I might expect to pay for top sides and >> bottom job? >> >> >> >> geeze, I hope you guys don't mind me staying apart of the group >> now... lol. I'd be lost without you all! >> >> >> >> Danny >> >> closing soon! >> >> Massachusetts >> >> >> >> DJH >> >> >> >> On Dave Godwin <dave.god...@me.com>, Sep 6, 2015 4:41 AM wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Congratulations. There’s one sitting in my slip at my house right >> now. It’s owned by a Norwegian couple that have spent three (winter) >> seasons in the Bahamas on it. They’re currently prepping to do do it again >> with a stop in NYC before heading South. >> >>> >> >>> They’re planning on stopping back at our place on the way down and >> I’ll probably be crewing on the leg from the Chesapeake to Charleston, >> outside. Big, sturdy boat and all set up for offshore work, including a >> nice wind vane. Which I know absolutely nothing about.. >> >>> >> >>> If I were home I’d walk down and take a picture and send it to you >> but it will be gone by the time I get back. >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Dave in BCN >> >>> >> >>> > On Sep 4, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > OK all. It's looking like we're going to be proud owners of a 1985 >> tartan 40. Survey went well we have come to terms on price, AND I had >> absolutely no problem with financing a 30 year old boat. All there is to >> do now is finalize paperwork and the yard down there is taking care of a >> few things for me! >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Email address: >> >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > >
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