All, we completed the Pensacola - Havana Race on C&C 34+ Dejavu last Thursday November 9th, crossing the finish at 9:36am. We sailed the entire race, only running the engine to charge batteries. We had five total in the crew and ran a helm schedule of two hours on the wheel with another crew keeping them company. The plan was that each person leaving the cockpit would then have a long break. One of our crew became seasick so we sailed most of race with 4 primary crew. Winds were mostly SE and fairly strong at 20 - 25 knts but one 24 hour period with 30+. We were double reefed most of the race and the boat behaved well with little weather helm. Dodging freighters at night in the Gulf of Mexico is part of the race and we had our share of those. AIS is really helpful and better than radar for those situations. We were the smallest boat in the race and took 3rd in Division and 3rd overall.
It was great to arrive in Cuba and we had many experiences while there. It is a vibrant land with friendly and curious people filled with unrealized dreams due to the controls the Cuban government puts on its citizens. On Saturday we participated on the Havana Cup Race along with 20 other boats. Only one other boat pointed as high as Dejavu and that was the J130. This gave us a big advantage against much bigger boats but on our final tack toward to finish we messed up a maneuver so we ended up 5th in that race. We are in Key West waiting for a weather window to sail up to Tampa and then later back over to Pensacola. Best to Everyone on the List > On Nov 10, 2015, at 6:54 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fwd: Replacing Windows (Gary Russell) > 2. Re: New to me C&C 33 (Aaron Rouhi) > 3. Re: Shift / throttle cables (Chuck S) > 4. Re: race to cuba (Paul Eugenio) > 5. Re: Fwd: Replacing Windows (Jake Brodersen) > 6. Re: Fwd: Replacing Windows (Dave Godwin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 21:08:00 -0500 > From: Gary Russell <[email protected]> > To: "C&C List" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows > Message-ID: > <CABgkXP+coSM9UM1omXcwL+4dLBuPi=fgr9ssblpevbadamw...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Bob, > Good point. > Gary > > ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~ > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:50 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> A very important distinction (made before by others) when talking about >> rebedding windows/ports/port lights is whether the window is the old style, >> i.e. aluminium frame attached to the cabintop and a lens attached to the >> frame or, the newer style which is a lens glued directly to the the outside >> of the cabintop, >> >> This distinction eluded me for quite awhile when reading threads about >> rebedding windows/ports/port lights. >> >> I have the old style windows and am very happy using butyl to seal the >> frames to the outside of the cabintop (along with the screws that attach >> the frame to the cabintop). (Here, there's a difference between attaching >> and sealing.) >> >> The newer windows/ports/port lights rely on a very strong adhesive to both >> attach and seal the lens to the outside of the cabintop. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Bob M >> Ox 33-1 >> Jax, FL >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Ahmet via CnC-List <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> A lot of people paraise using Butyl tape for attaching windows. >>> I have not done it, but I can see the results on my C&C Hull/Deck joint, >>> and it looks pretty good >>> Ahmet >>> >>> <http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com> >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> [email protected] >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20151109/206c661e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 02:09:48 +0000 > From: Aaron Rouhi <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List New to me C&C 33 > Message-ID: > > <sn2pr11mb0045cd914173644d617b0a14a2...@sn2pr11mb0045.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Martin, > Do know if they have drawings for 30-1? What is the process for requesting > them? It would be great to have Admiral Maggie's drawings... > > Cheers, > Aaron Rouhi > Admiral Maggie > 79 30-1 > Annapolis, MD > > On Nov 9, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> 3.) Where can I find out the fiberglass layup schedule? > > Paul, > > A good place to find details on your C&C's construction details is the > Maritime Museum of the Great Lakes in Kingston. I was able to buy copies of > Calypso build drawings which have been very helpful on our deck restoration > project. > > Regarding your repair project, Sailing Anarchy's Fixit Forum has had some > great discussions on repairing damaged boats. It may take a while to sort > out the background noise to get to the good stuff but there are some very > good posts relating to your type of project. > > Martin DeYoung > Calypso > 1971 C&C 43 > Seattle > > <image001.png> > > From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Wyand > via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 2:17 PM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: Paul Wyand > Subject: Stus-List New to me C&C 33 > > I have purchased a 1976 C&C 33 MK I that had some fire damage (due to a fire > on a neighboring boat) to the outside of the starboard side of the hull. she > is floating but dirty all around. I am planing on doing a modest restore on > her. I am not looking for perfection but for a nice fun to sail boat that I > will also live on. The previous owner was kind of a down to basics kind of > guy. No shore power, no real electronics hank on sails. his daughter said > that they tried to talk him into self tailing winches, and he said "what do I > need self tailers for? I have you to tail the lines!" Has lots of sails, and > the rest of the boat appears to be pretty good. So the plan is this winter > clean up the interior, get shore power set up and some sort of heat so I can > spend at least weekends on board working on the boat. I have her in a winter > wet storage slip and the everything is winterized except the engine. she has > the mast down and winter cover frame is up. Once I am in the final "winter > slip " I will winterize the engine. Once the weather warms up enough I will have the boat hulled and I will do fiberglass repairs and paint the exterior. So a couple of questions: > 1.) First and really simple, where is the cushion for the double bunk > supposed to go when not in use? I don't see any simple locations. I have > moved it as there is a bit of deck leaking over that settee. > 2.) There was some damage to the side of the hull, and the neighboring boat's > mast came down on the cabin top. There is some cracking on the cabin top, > soft side deck and both of the fixed ports are damaged. > Obviously the ports are long off the market. I see a couple of options > make over-sized ports and surface mount to the cabin top sides both sides. > (likely least expensive) > Get all new opening Bomar Gray 6X23 inch ports. Looks like they may fit, has > anyone installed them? > Get two bomar ports and move one of the existing ports over and have two > fixed and two opening ports (saves some money but the lenses on the existing > ports are not great and looks like someone has tried to stop leaks with > caulk, so may just be full of frustration) > 3.) Where can I find out the fiberglass layup schedule? I want to duplicate > it as much as possible. I have read that they used unidirectional roving on > the boat. My plan on the hull side is to put a few layers on inside just to > hold the shape, then from the outside to grind down till I get to good glass > and build back up from there. On the cabin top and side decks I plan on > cutting off the top layer of fiberglass and replacing core and re-glass. > Then paint the topsides and deck with one part paint and call it a day. > Good news is the boat has a Atomic 4 that runs like a champ! Made the 25 mile > trip from storage yard to new home without a hiccup. > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20151110/2fda8ebe/attachment-0001.html> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image001.png > Type: image/png > Size: 5230 bytes > Desc: image001.png > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20151110/2fda8ebe/attachment-0002.png> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image001.png > Type: image/png > Size: 5230 bytes > Desc: image001.png > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20151110/2fda8ebe/attachment-0003.png> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 02:33:45 +0000 (UTC) > From: Chuck S <[email protected]> > To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift / throttle cables > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > My throttle cable came with a small clamp that squeezes the outer plastic > sheath against the inner SS rod. I've seen this same setup on several other > boats. Without it, the throttle spring pulls the lever till the engine slows > to an idle. Some Edson binacles have a screw that serves the same purpose. > When you pull the compass, it can be seen as a SS screw that puts pressure on > the lever shaft. > > > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John and Maryann Read via CnC-List" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: "John and Maryann Read" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 9:25:31 PM > Subject: Stus-List Shift / throttle cables > > > > Have removed the shift and throttle cables as they were stiff and had > excessive resistance. Not surprising as they are OEM and 33 years old. Any > thoughts on suitable replacement and where to purchase?? > > > > On a related note, our Yanmar 3GM throttle has a built in internal spring > that applies increasing resistance as the throttle is opened more. The OEM > fix was to put an adjustable crimp in the cable but that seems less than > ideal. Any thoughts as to how to offset the internal spring?? > > > > Many thanks for your thoughts > > > > John & Maryann > > Legacy III > > 1982 C&C 34 > > Noank, CT > > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20151110/996de6a6/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 23:35:00 -0500 > From: Paul Eugenio <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List race to cuba > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have been looking for final results for several days. There has been no > update on the race website, but I came across this in the Pensacola News > Journal: > > http://www.pnj.com/story/sports/2015/11/09/kriegel-reiss-share-pensacola-la-habana-honors/75485862/ > > > Congratulations to the Deja Vu crew for a strong 3rd place in class and > overall diversion. > > > Andrews Institute Pensacola a la Habana 2015 > > CORRECTED TIME RESULTS > > ? MODERN CRUISER DIVISION > > CLASS A > > 1? XTC, Beneteau OC 461, Tom Glew, St. Petersburg FL > > 2? Lesson #1, J130, Guy Williams/Mike Finn, New Orleans LA > > 3? D?j? Vu, C&C34+, Stephen Thorne, Norcross GA/Mandeville LA > > 4? Na Zdravi, Beneteau 47, Chris Schmidt, Montgomery AL/Panama City FL > > CLASS B > > 1? Legacy, Hylas 49, Alan Steele, Gulf Breeze FL > > 2? La Gazelle, Beneteau 381, Kirby Louque, Metairie LA > > 3? TraSea, (re: Midnight Sun II) Beneteau 473, Neil Davies/Larry Cost, > Pensacola FL > > 4? Tif Blue, Tartan 34, Bob Suberi, Orange Beach AL > > MODERN CRUISER DIVISION OVERALL > > 1? XTC, Beneteau OC 461, Tom Glew, St. Petersburg FL > > 2? Lesson #1, J130, Guy Williams/ Mike Finn, New Orleans LA > > 3? D?j? Vu, C&C34+, Stephen Thorne, Norcross GA/Mandeville LA > > 4? Legacy, Hylas 49, Alan Steele, Gulf Breeze FL > > ? CLASSIC CRUISER DIVISION > > CLASS C > > 1? Libra, Tripp 57, Ryan Rayfield, Orange Beach AL > > 2? Radio Flyer, Valiant 40, Tim Cerniglia, New Orleans LA > > 3? Serengeti, Formosa 45, Larry Hamilton, Marathon FL > > CLASS D > > 1? Acadia, Pearson 424, Bob Kriegel, Pensacola FL > > 2? Chanty, Cape Dory 36, Larry McAnally, Ashland OR/Destin FL > > 3? Learning to Fly, Island Packet 38, Robert Witzler, Apollo Beach FL > > CLASSIC CRUISER DIVISION OVERALL > > 1? Acadia, Pearson 424, Bob Kriegel, Pensacola FL > > 2? Chanty, Cape Dory 36, Larry McAnally, Ashland OR/Destin FL > > 3? Libra, Tripp 57, Ryan Rayfield, Orange Beach AL > > 4? Radio Flyer, Valiant 40, Tim Cerniglia, New Orleans LA > > MONOHULL FLEET CORRECTED TIME OVERALL WINNER > > 1? Acadia, Pearson 424, Bob Kriegel, Pensacola FL > > MULTIHULL CLASS & DIVISION > > 1? Bene Vita, R&C 46, George Reiss, Panama City FL > > 2? Odalisque, Catana 43, Tom Schinkert, Elberta AL > > 3? Belafonte, Corsair 31R, Mike Patterson, Pensacola FL > > MULTIHULL FLEET CORRECTED TIME OVERALL WINNER > > 1? Bene Vita, R&C 46, George Reiss, Panama City FL > > PACE PERPETUAL TROPHY WINNERS > > Monohull? Acadia, Pearson 424, Bob Kriegel, Pensacola FL > > Multihull? Bene Vita, R&C 46, George Reiss, Panama City FL > > OVERALL BEST CORRECTED TIME TROPHY WINNER > > Bene Vita, R&C 46, George Reiss, Panama City FL > > > > - > Paul E. > 1981 C&C 38 Landfall > S/V Johanna Rose > Carrabelle, FL > > http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ > >> On Nov 5, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Dreuge <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I just checked to see how the race was going for Deja Vu. At 9:00AM, Steve >> Thorne is just shy of the finish by 1.7NM. Given delays in reporting data, >> he has likely finished. Congratulations! >> >> Reading the news updates from the race website is interesting. "Several of >> the boats that have finished? and many still on the course? have used their >> engines for propulsion. Calculating the adjusted corrected times of all the >> boats will be complex.? >> >> >> Recall last year Steve gave us an update on Deja Vu?s experiences in the >> Regata Al Sol, the race from Pensacola to Isla Mujeras. In short, he >> shared his experience with the steering failure due to not easily seen idler >> plate corrosion. >> >> After reading about Steve?s report, I went and thoroughly checked my >> steering idler. Mine was steering failure in waiting? I wrote about it on >> the Johanna Rose blog: >> >> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/2015/11/replacing-steering-cross-wire-idlers.html >> >> <http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/2015/11/replacing-steering-cross-wire-idlers.html> >> >> >> Thanks to everyone for these after reports. >> >> >> >> - >> Paul E. >> 1981 C&C 38 Landfall >> S/V Johanna Rose >> Carrabelle, FL >> >> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ <http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20151109/953ea109/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 05:51:53 -0500 > From: "Jake Brodersen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dave, > > > > I think I?ve finally been converted over to VHB tape. After seeing the video > and seeing the comments on here, that is what I will probably use the next > time I do windows. > > The process seems very straight forward and only requires one person, who is > not in a rush to get done before the adhesive kicks off. > > > > I?ve done my windows twice with Plexus. Yes, it works, but I certainly would > like to see the installation last longer. I think the VHB tape would outlast > Plexus. > > > > Jake > > > > Jake Brodersen > > C&C 35 Mk-III ?Midnight Mistress? > > Hampton VA > > > > > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave > Godwin via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 19:40 > To: Paul Eugenio via CnC-List <[email protected]> > Cc: Dave Godwin <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows > > > > More response to this thread; I?ve been working on the fixed ports on my boat > over the last few days and and paying close attention. After absorbing a good > bit of the info in the thread and the links provided, I?m planning on moving > away from using Plexus ("if it was good enough for my grandfather it?s good > enough for me!?) and using the 3M tape. Seems the more modern ticket to me. > > > > I?m anticipating the operation to be a good bit easy than using Plexus, > certainly if it is just one person doing the job. > > > > Cheers, > > Dave Godwin > 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin > Reedville - Chesapeake Bay > > Ronin?s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20151110/6dd2a10e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 06:53:08 -0500 > From: Dave Godwin <[email protected]> > To: Jake Brodersen <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > "I?ve done my windows twice with Plexus.? > > I know. I still have some Plexus remnants of your last project in my > refrigerator. ;-) > > At the rate that I am moving on this project I would have overrun the shelf > life anyway so another reason to use the 3M VHB tape. I replaced the ports 16 > years ago shortly after we purchased ?Ronin? and used, at the recommendation > of the portlight fabricator, silicone sealant. Although it did hold the ports > in and kept things dry, they were never terribly stressed. Based on what I > know understand I would not recommend that method. > > Best, > Dave Godwin > 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin > Reedville - Chesapeake Bay > Ronin?s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> >> On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:51 AM, Jake Brodersen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dave, >> >> I think I?ve finally been converted over to VHB tape. After seeing the >> video and seeing the comments on here, that is what I will probably use the >> next time I do windows. >> The process seems very straight forward and only requires one person, who is >> not in a rush to get done before the adhesive kicks off. >> >> I?ve done my windows twice with Plexus. Yes, it works, but I certainly >> would like to see the installation last longer. I think the VHB tape would >> outlast Plexus. >> >> Jake >> >> Jake Brodersen >> C&C 35 Mk-III ?Midnight Mistress? >> Hampton VA >> >> >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave >> Godwin via CnC-List >> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 19:40 >> To: Paul Eugenio via CnC-List <[email protected]> >> Cc: Dave Godwin <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows >> >> More response to this thread; I?ve been working on the fixed ports on my >> boat over the last few days and and paying close attention. After absorbing >> a good bit of the info in the thread and the links provided, I?m planning on >> moving away from using Plexus ("if it was good enough for my grandfather >> it?s good enough for me!?) and using the 3M tape. Seems the more modern >> ticket to me. >> >> I?m anticipating the operation to be a good bit easy than using Plexus, >> certainly if it is just one person doing the job. >> >> Cheers, >> Dave Godwin >> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin >> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay >> Ronin?s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20151110/a3ed91cc/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > [email protected] > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 118, Issue 31 > ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Email address: [email protected] To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
