I have a mast mount because that is how my boat came, but would prefer a high (12+ft) stern pole. I had twice problems with my stern pole radar on my previous boat which I was easily able to fix (broken belt, and water in the unit) which would have been a major issue on the mast mount (at least for me).
For coastal cruising, I don't think I ever cared for anything farther that 5 miles. For me, the main purpose for radar is other boats in the dark and fog, and unlighted cans at night, which are all within a few miles. That is assuming that one has GPS and AIS. Sometimes I use it to verify the GPS. If one is sailing in areas where GPS charts are not as reliable, that may be a different issue, Ahmet Boston, MA On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Headgorilla via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Thanks Guys, > > I was thinking mast mount mostly to keep it away from passengers and crew, > however I can see it as a possible pest on the mast as well..... > > I still have some time since we are wrapped up and on land....I really > appreciate the input > > Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> > Sent: Tue, Dec 29, 2015 3:32 pm > Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - Raymarine Combo on sale again > > A couple of comments on radar: a mast-mounted radar will “see” vessels > further away, including over the horizon compared to deck-level. But as > Chuck mentioned, it will not see things in the water closer to the boat, as > there’s about a 12.5° vertical beam width above/below horizontal on most > marine radars; so as a target gets within several dozen yards of the radar, > it’ll be too low to be picked up. Using a stern pole can help with this > close-in imaging of targets; but you lose the distant ability of having the > dome up high. > > There is also a danger with stern pole mounting of having the radar beam > hit deck crew; stand too close to a high-power radar beam, and you can > develop some nasty medical issues like vision loss. This is an issue I > have with power boaters who mount the dome right on their hard top (usually > a large open array…), then come into the dock on a clear sunny day with the > radar merrily turning away. The beam is pretty much at head-height for > anyone standing on the dock, and it’s pretty easy to get a nice face full > of microwave radiation at close range. > > Chuck — as far as NME0183 vs NMEA2000 on the Raymarine a, c, e, and eS > Series MFDs, ALL of them support NMEA2000. See page 51 of the a-c-e > Installation Manual. The smallest versions of the a and c Series DO NOT > have NMEA0183 connections on them at all. > > — Fred > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > > On Dec 29, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Mike, > My experience with mast mounted radar is not favorable. Close in targets > tend to drop off (such as small boats and channel markers in the fog) as > the radar tends to see above those objects. The mast mount is also hell on > an overlapping jib.. > Chuck Gilchrest > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 29, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Headgorilla via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Thanks for discussing the Raymarine equipment, I am going into the NY boat > show next week to see my electronics people and probably but a package due > to all the rebates and discounts they offer, so I appreciate your > experience on this subject....I am listening. > > One Question: where the best spot to mount the Radar antenna, on the Mast? > or off a pole on the stern? > > Mike Dolan > 1979 34' C&C "Skywalker" > Southold, NY > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net> > Sent: Tue, Dec 29, 2015 2:15 pm > Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - Raymarine Combo on sale again > > I believe the C series units also rely on NMEA 0183 networking language > where A, E series and newer will be NMEA 2000 and can network more readily > with peripherals such as wind, speed, depth, and autopilot. I’d check to > see what’s on your boat with regards to the peripherals and that may make a > difference in your decision making process. Don’t try to mix and match > instrument brands or operating language otherwise you will spend all your > sailing time trying to make the instruments talk to each other and at best, > functionality will be limited. > Chuck Gilchrest > S/V Half Magic > 1975 25 Mk 1 > > S/V Orion > 1983 35 Landfall > Padanaram, MA > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com?>] *On Behalf Of *Frederick G Street via > CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:03 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stus List - Raymarine Combo on sale again > > Sure! The eS Series is the newest MFD from Raymarine, and is basically an > updated, more powerful version of the e Series, with both touchscreen and > hard controls. I would definitely recommend the eS over the e if you’re > looking to buy today, particularly at the 7” size where there’s not much > difference at all in price. > > The Raymarine c Series has NO touchscreen capability whatsoever; just > buttons. I’d put it at the bottom of the heap in terms of power and > functionality. > > How’s that? :^) > > Happy New Year, all! > > — Fred > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V *Oceanis* (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > > > On Dec 29, 2015, at 11:22 AM, Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Fred, thank you for that summary - I've been trying to work out what the > differences between the Raymarine models amount to in the real world. > Would you care to expand your descriptions to include the "c" and "es" > ranges too? > > Thanks! > > Tim > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > -- ------------------------------------------- Ahmet *"S/V Waterdancer"* 1990 Irwin 43 CC "Tabasco" 1973 C&C 25 Winthrop Yacht Club, Winthrop, MA / USA -------------------------------------------
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