Technically, legally, both U.S. and Canadian boats are supposed to have a 
station license when sailing out of their home country's waters. (This may be a 
default international rule I am not sure.) 

Canada and the United States had an agreement to drop that requirement between 
our respective countries, but before it came into effect the 911 attacks 
happened, and the United States Government refused to proceed with it. This may 
be why there is so little enforcement. 

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON 

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
  To: [email protected] 
  Cc: Rick Brass 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 21:49
  Subject: Re: Stus-List MMSI Number Assigning Authority (USA and Canada)


  The basic difference between an MMSI issued by Boat/US and one from the FCC 
is the availability of the data to search and rescue agencies. Boat/US share 
the database of boat description, emergency contacts, persons on board, cell 
phones aboard, etc. with the USCG. So if you make a distress call in US waters 
(or within range of the USCG) they look up your boat information, call your 
home and emergency contacts to make sure it is not a false alarm, call you back 
on the radio to identify your emergency and start the SAR process. 

   

  If you are out of the area covered by USCG, the SAR agency that gets your DSC 
mayday call gets your MMSI and position, but does not have access to the other 
information you submit with your application. They know you’re out there, but 
they don’t know who they are looking for or what resources they might need. 
That could potentially impede the search. Also, the majority of mayday calls 
received by the USCG are false alarms or hoaxes. Not to disparage any 3rd world 
SAR agencies or imply that the response to a call will be less than efficient, 
but can’t you imagine the following: “Hey, jefe, there is some bozo sending a 
distress call, but I can’t tell who or what they are.” “Damn. There’s a storm 
out there and it’s probably a false alarm anyway. Send out Pablo in the morning 
to see if he can see what’s up.” 

   

  Information associated with an MMSI issued by the FCC is shared not just with 
the USCG, but also internationally.

   

  If you are going to be out of US territorial waters you are legally supposed 
to have a Ship’s Station License issued by the FCC. Getting the license usually 
includes the MMSI number. You also need a Ship Station License if you are 
operating other equipment like AIS, radar, SSB or other HF radio, or an EPIRB.  
Boat/US says Canada does not enforce the licensing requirement. Don’t know 
whether it comes up when entering other countries, but not having all the 
appropriate paperwork and licenses when clearing into a country might be a 
cause for hassles, fees, and delays.

   

  From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of bobmor99 . 
via CnC-List
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 6:44 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Cc: bobmor99 . <[email protected]>
  Subject: Stus-List MMSI Number Assigning Authority (USA and Canada)

   

  Just read the nice BoatUS MMSI FAQ.
  https://www.boatus.com/mmsi/faq.asp

  As I understand it, both Canadian and US boaters have a choice for 
quick-easy-free MMSI number assignment (by Industry Canada or BoatUS) or a 
slower, not-free gov't issued MMSI number (which ends in a zero).

  Non-gov't issued MMSI numbers are only for use in Canadian or US waters.

  What would be the ramifications if I issued a DSC distress call from a radio 
with a BoatUS-supplied MMSI in, e.g., Bahamian waters?

  Would it go unnoticed? Would I be fined? Sorry to sound like a scofflaw, just 
trying to understand how the system works.

  Bob M

  Ox 33-1

  Jax, FL



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