That's the way my club does it too - "A" division for spinnaker boats, "B" division for non-spinnaker boats. Last year we had 17 spin boats and 11 non-spin boats in my club. Among the spin boats the Capri-22s, J/22s, and Santana 20s usually fleet (three or more for a fleet in my club).
Since my boat has a spinnaker, its PHRF rating would be 12 seconds lower in A division than in B division (regardless of whether I flew the chute in a given A division race). I'd like to ask your thoughts on which division to race a 30-1 in, given the local conditions and my potential crew, but I'll start a separate thread on that. Best Regards, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30 MK1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 23, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Hello Ron, > > We do the same thing here in Savannah. We have Class A for the spin boats and > Class B for JAM. Your PHRF rating applies to your boat regardless of the > class entered. Saves a lot of RC grief, but the usual "I lost because my > rating sucks" still applies. > > Best regards, > Jack Fitzgerald > HONEY (C&C 39TM) > US12788 > SAVANNAH, GA > > >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> Hi Ron, >> >> We have a pretty simple / easy way to deal with that: We have spin / >> non-spin classes with the same phrf ranges.. >> >> This way you completely avoid all the complications as it's pretty tricky to >> judge the spin's advantage: The effects will depend on the length of the >> course, it's nature (Is it 'Reachy', triangle, windward / leeward, etc) and >> the boats themselves. Some boats benefit more than others. >> >> I think just "adding XX" to Phrf will skew the results. Having separate >> spin / non-spin classes is much simpler, fairer, and less open to >> controversy. >> >> >> My 2 cents , >> >> Good luck with it. >> >> -Francois Rivard >> 1990 34+ "Take Five" >> Lake Lanier, Georgia >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Greetings folks,We have a problem with how to handicap boats that race with >> jib and main only (JAM). ?The PHRF handicaps basically are for spinnaker >> racing. ?I believe that there were some clubs, a few only, that adjust >> numbers for JAM boats. ?We make adjustments to the numbers for our lake >> conditions and style of boat (older displacement etc.), but not sure how to >> fix JAM.Polars that I have seen for about 6 boats all show with chute only. >> ?Does anyone know if there are polars for downwind sailing without chutes? >> ?How can one arrive at those speeds?Could some of you whose clubs adjust >> numbers let me know any info you can on how that is accomplished at your >> club? ?And the rationale behind the adjustment.If it gets too specific for >> the whole list, we can take it offline later to keep traffic >> down.ThanksRonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL >> Regards >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom >> of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >
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