Dave, There should be no issue with your boat as I believe your boat’s steering is configured much differently than Josh’s. Your idler assembly is below deck while Josh’s sits in a “well” along with the steering cables and radial wheel. The issue with the 37+ is that the pedestal bolt thread directly into nuts that are held captive in the deck structure. Because the idler basically sits between the pedestal and the deck, the thickness of the idler plate was a huge issue, to say nothing of the chamfer required around the edges to fit into the confined spaces directly below the pedestal.
On your boat, even if there’s a slight difference on the plate thickness, it is insignificant unless the radial wheel on the rudder post is less than 2-3 feet from the idler sheaves. As an aside, many folks seem to have issues with Edson’s use of a mild steel idler plates on their boats. In most cases, these steel plate idlers were utilized as the strongest steel that could be used in a cost effective manner. Discussions with Edson also reveal that other idler materials were offered to C&C for use such as Bronze, but the cost was not acceptable to C&C thus their choice of using a mild steel part. In the case of the later model 37+, Edson was not made aware of the deck design change that moved the idler and radial above the deck. I’m happy to say that despite having a boat that has spent its entire life in salt water in New England, the mild steel plate idler on Orion, my 1983 Landfall 35, looks and operates just like a brand new component, due to the fact that it sits nice and dry behind the engine and water heater. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 6:42 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dave Godwin <dave.god...@me.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Idler Plate Photo Explanation This is good but semi-unsettling information. I’ll be replacing my entire steering system less the quadrant and engine control cables sometime next Fall, Inshallah. I spoke with the folks at Edson at length about this but there was no thought or mention of the fact that the plate itself would be a different thickness. Thanks for the updates. Best, Dave Godwin 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> On Mar 16, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Wish I'd have seem this 2 months ago. I bought the new bronze idler from edson. When I realized that the thickness was gonna be a problem I called edson and they found "the last steel idler plate on the face of the earth." They agreed to remove the sheaves from the bronze plate and install them on the steel plate. A week later I got the steel plate back. It was immediately evident that the sheave pivots were preventing the sheaves from rotating close enough. I called edson again and they agreed to receive both of the plates. My original and the one they had just remanufactured. They would now remove my original sheaves from the original rusted steel plate and install them on the "last ever" steel plate (which not needed new sheaves removed). It was a process but the guys at edson were reasonable and worked quickly. It is now installed and works exactly as designed 28 years ago. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mar 16, 2016 10:36 AM, "Stu via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: I have just posted an article by Chuck on Resolute explaining the Idler Arm on a 1990’s C&C 34/36. http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/Idler_Plate_Explained.pdf <http://mailtrack.me/tracking/raWzMz50paMkCGV4AwNjZmxkAQNzMKWjqzA2pzSaqaR9ZwH2ZGDjBGp1Way2LKu2pG04BGR0AwxjZwV0Zj> or it is on the Photo Album main page. Stu <http://mailtrack.me/tracking/raWzMz50paMkCGV4AwNjZmxkAQNzMKWjqzA2pzSaqaR9ZwH2ZGDjBGp1Xt.gif> _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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