If the the shaft seal hasn't been replaced recently, the manufacturer recommends replacement every 5 years. That might be on the conservative side but even of you pushed it out to 10 years, do you know when it was replaced last?
It definitely seems like the strut pro is the best option. There are lots of creative solutions but the strut pro is consistently the fastest with the least amount of effort. Removing the prop may be avoidable if you can create enough space. Disconnect the shaft coupling from the engine, loosen the shaft seal collar, and then slide the shaft back. Removing the prop really isn't that big of a deal. Watch the YouTube videos. Fred Hutchinson from PYI (Max-Prop) walks you through every aspect. The worst part is all the grease and not enough clean hands. Have a partner standing by with paper towels, a camera, tools, and bring some brake cleaner. If you find a need to pull the shaft completely you may also find that you'll have to drop the rudder to do so. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Apr 10, 2016 1:34 AM, "Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List" < [email protected]> wrote: That is the question, esteemed listers. I need to change the cutless bearing but am not feeling over-enthusiastic about pulling the shaft, as I have a PSS in there as well, and pulling the shaft is almost never easy. With the StrutPro all the circus involved in this operation is eliminated, BUT I need to remove a Max Prop 2-blade with all its cones and gears and little letters that need to be matched for the exact pitch and all that micro-mechanics involved. How do you guys do this usually? I know I can make this dilemma go away if I just pay someone to do it but we can’t have money solve all the problems in this world, or can we? And could someone tell me the right size of the cutless for the 37, as I am right now about 15,000 miles from my boat? cheers, Chris C&C 37 NORTHERN LIGHT > On Apr 10, 2016, at 6:07 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal Guard Wiring > (Chuck Gilchrest) > 2. Re: 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal Guard Wiring > ([email protected]) > 3. Re: 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal Guard Wiring > (Stevan Plavsa) > 4. Re: Boom fittings for reefing attachments (Rjcasciato) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 17:19:34 -0400 > From: Chuck Gilchrest <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal > Guard Wiring > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > It is still a good idea to use an o ring, seal, or other type of goop where wires enter the pedestal to cut down on possible chafe. Any stray current reaching the pedestal due to bad insulation will make powder coating peel off the pedestal like snake skin.. > Probably not the best for the instruments either.. > Chuck Gilchrest > Half Magic > 1983 Landfall 35 > Padanaram MA > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 9, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List < [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Chuck, >> You have it exactly right. I did not seal either place because any water that leaks in will come out in the area where the steering cable are, and that area is wet anyway. >> >> Gary >> >> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~ >> >> >>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List < [email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Gary, >>> Your solution sounds very professional. Do I understand you correctly? >>> Your Navpod wires run down inside the SS guard tubing, then exit the guard underneath the big traiangular plate that captures the pedestal and guard and supports the compass. Then the wires enter the pedestal and run down inside, through the idler plate and follows the other wires and cables from the pedestal. What did you use to seal the wires where they penetrate the SS guard and the Pedestal? >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> From: "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <[email protected]> >>> To: "C&C List" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: "Gary Russell" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 8:34:31 AM >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal Guard Wiring >>> >>> Hi Edd, >>> I recently installed a new pedestal guard with an offset to add a Navpod for my new B&G Zeus2 display. I soon discovered the problem everyone has noticed in that you can't run wiring through the floor under the pedestal guard. Instead, I ran the wiring from the pod into the pedestal guard and exited the pedestal guard just below the plate that supports the compass. I drilled a small hole into the binnacle and ran the wires into the area under the compass. If you do this properly, the wires are not visible. From there I snaked the wires down through the sheave plate and into the area where the steering cables run under the floor panel. I then drilled a hole into the ports side locker and continued from there. It worked well for me. Fishing the wires through the sheave plate under the binnacle is a challenge, but doable. I hope this helps. >>> >>> Live long and prosper, >>> Gary >>> S/V Kaylarah (formerly High Maintenance) >>> '90 C&C 37+ >>> East Greenwich, RI, USA >>> Gary >>> >>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~ >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List < [email protected]> wrote: >>>> Listers, >>>> >>>> Has anyone with 1989-1993 C&Cs installed instruments into a NavPod (or similar) onto their stainless pedestal guards, and, if so, how did you run the wires down from inside the guard? In other words, once you reached the bottom, where did you go from there? >>>> >>>> As far as I can tell, without taking it all apart, the guard ends on the deck above the aft cabin and there is no access point to that area. But, I may be wrong. >>>> >>>> Anyone? I?m looking to install a Raymarine e95 MFD and p70 Autopilot control head at the helm. >>>> >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> >>>> Edd >>>> >>>> >>>> Edd M. Schillay >>>> Starship Enterprise >>>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >>>> City Island, NY >>>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. 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All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20160409/3a2f0da6/attachment-0001.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 17:46:57 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal > Guard Wiring > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Probably need to drill a hole thru the deck--on my 1995 XL/kcb the guard just stopped at the deck--no holes underneath the SS tubbing. > > > Charlie Nelson > Water Phantom > C&C 36 XL/kcb > Oriental, NC > > > [email protected] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List <[email protected]> > To: C&C List <[email protected]> > Cc: Edd Schillay <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri, Apr 8, 2016 4:25 pm > Subject: Stus-List 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal Guard Wiring > > > Listers, > > > Has anyone with 1989-1993 C&Cs installed instruments into a NavPod (or similar) onto their stainless pedestal guards, and, if so, how did you run the wires down from inside the guard? In other words, once you reached the bottom, where did you go from there? > > > As far as I can tell, without taking it all apart, the guard ends on the deck above the aft cabin and there is no access point to that area. But, I may be wrong. > > > Anyone? I?m looking to install a Raymarine e95 MFD and p70 Autopilot control head at the helm. > > > > > All the best, > > > Edd > > > > > Edd M. Schillay > Starship Enterprise > C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B > City Island, NY > > Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20160409/d93a05b3/attachment-0001.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 17:46:50 -0400 > From: Stevan Plavsa <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal > Guard Wiring > Message-ID: > <caddevn724kvvseob7nnlir8mb80i6jq7+tkvju25zrood-x...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I know you guys have an aft cabin to deal with but you might find some > useful installation tips here: > http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/plotter_mount_edson&page=1 > > Good article, good site. I'm going through this exercise on Suhana very > soon. I got the same navpod pedestal guard. > > Steve > Suhana, C&C 32 > Toronto > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> It is still a good idea to use an o ring, seal, or other type of goop >> where wires enter the pedestal to cut down on possible chafe. Any stray >> current reaching the pedestal due to bad insulation will make powder >> coating peel off the pedestal like snake skin.. >> Probably not the best for the instruments either.. >> Chuck Gilchrest >> Half Magic >> 1983 Landfall 35 >> Padanaram MA >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 9, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Chuck, >> You have it exactly right. I did not seal either place because any >> water that leaks in will come out in the area where the steering cable are, >> and that area is wet anyway. >> >> Gary >> >> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~ >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Gary, >>> Your solution sounds very professional. Do I understand you correctly? >>> Your Navpod wires run down inside the SS guard tubing, then exit the >>> guard underneath the big traiangular plate that captures the pedestal and >>> guard and supports the compass. Then the wires enter the pedestal and run >>> down inside, through the idler plate and follows the other wires and cables >>> from the pedestal. What did you use to seal the wires where they penetrate >>> the SS guard and the Pedestal? >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Gary Russell via CnC-List" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *"C&C List" <[email protected]> >>> *Cc: *"Gary Russell" <[email protected]> >>> *Sent: *Saturday, April 9, 2016 8:34:31 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal >>> Guard Wiring >>> >>> Hi Edd, >>> I recently installed a new pedestal guard with an offset to add a >>> Navpod for my new B&G Zeus2 display. I soon discovered the problem >>> everyone has noticed in that you can't run wiring through the floor under >>> the pedestal guard. Instead, I ran the wiring from the pod into the >>> pedestal guard and exited the pedestal guard just below the plate that >>> supports the compass. I drilled a small hole into the binnacle and ran the >>> wires into the area under the compass. If you do this properly, the wires >>> are not visible. From there I snaked the wires down through the sheave >>> plate and into the area where the steering cables run under the floor >>> panel. I then drilled a hole into the ports side locker and continued from >>> there. It worked well for me. Fishing the wires through the sheave plate >>> under the binnacle is a challenge, but doable. I hope this helps. >>> >>> Live long and prosper, >>> Gary >>> S/V Kaylarah (formerly High Maintenance) >>> '90 C&C 37+ >>> East Greenwich, RI, USA >>> Gary >>> >>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~ >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Listers, >>>> >>>> Has anyone with 1989-1993 C&Cs installed instruments into a NavPod (or >>>> similar) onto their stainless pedestal guards, and, if so, how did you run >>>> the wires down from inside the guard? In other words, once you reached the >>>> bottom, where did you go from there? >>>> >>>> As far as I can tell, without taking it all apart, the guard ends on the >>>> deck above the aft cabin and there is no access point to that area. But, I >>>> may be wrong. >>>> >>>> Anyone? I?m looking to install a Raymarine e95 MFD and p70 Autopilot >>>> control head at the helm. >>>> >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> >>>> Edd >>>> >>>> >>>> Edd M. Schillay >>>> Starship Enterprise >>>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >>>> City Island, NY >>>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >>>> like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. 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All >> Contributions are greatly appreciated! >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20160409/c6d70df7/attachment-0001.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 18:06:53 -0400 > From: "Rjcasciato" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments > Message-ID: <1E25F91A848845A7AAB7904BE878FC2D@Aspire7736Z> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > HI Mike: > > You or your sailmaker can fabricate one..........in my case, I bought a > piece of 1" wide nylon web strap........for of like the sail ties material. > Then I found at West Marine 2 stainless rings about 2" in diameter???/ > (Bigger than your sail cringle)....I put one ring on the strap and fed both > pieces of the strap through the cringle........on the other side, I put the > second ring on and then overlapped the two ends about an inch and stitched > then together with heavy waxed whipping line.........I Found a nifty hand > stitcher at Harbor Freight for a couple of bucks and that made it easy..... > > So the finished product looks like a floppy dogbone with one ring on each > side......that ring simply gets hooked over the reefing hook on the boom end > and you're all set to haul up the main halyard...... > > You'll figure out that after you reef the leech of the sail, you may need to > readjust the halyard, but that's boat dependant and crew savvy........ > > Good luck, > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael > Crombie via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 9:47 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments > > Hi Ron, > > You refer to a "strap loop" that goes through the tack cringle. I think > this is exactly what i'm missing! Where do I get one of these? Or how do I > make one? > > For the past two years i've just been trying to hook the cringle onto the > reefing hook on the boom...this doesn't work very well and it can damage the > sail. > > Thanks, > > Mike > Atacama 33 mkii > Toronto > Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. > Envoy? sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r?seau de Bell. > _______________________________________________ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like > what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. 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