Eric…James Bibb here…picked up 34/36 with a dip pole and am contemplating 
assymetrical conversion.  I had a Cal 29 with a bowsprit, since-line furler set 
up and concur.  

Mind sharing more about your set-up?  I rarely have 7 people handy enough.  


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> On Dec 7, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Eric Baumes via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I switched to an asymmetrical with a retrofit bow sprit. I'll never gybe a 
> symmetrical chute again.
> 
> After the first gybe with the new setup, my crew confessed that used to dread 
> when the boat turned downwind. 
> 
> For everything to work well on a dip gybe you need 7. Now I can fly the chute 
> and gybe with as few as 2 crew.
> 
> In light wind we sail the angle we probably should have sailed with the 
> symmetrical. In heavy air we can sail pretty deep. 
> 
> Eric
> 
> C&C 34/36
> 
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Persuasion37 via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> And that is why I don't race.  Great video.
> 
> Mike
> PERSUASION
> C&C 37 K/CB
> Long Sault
> 
> On Dec 6, 2016, at 11:40 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
>> That video is an all time classic in my book. I can not believe it doesn't 
>> have a gazillion views.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016, 6:58 PM John McKay via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> Damn Kevin I howled
>> 
>> How often did I hear these conversation the last racing season!
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 5:40 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Not sure why the ass end of the boat has so much difficulty following 
>> instructions: https://youtu.be/4MRunq1y2_A <https://youtu.be/4MRunq1y2_A>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:45 PM Nauset Beach via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> Another aspect of smoother end for end gybes with sheets and guys is having 
>> the foredeck make certain there is plenty of slack lazy guy at the chain 
>> plates prior to beginning the maneuver – how much slack is determined 
>> through practice.  When the pole is trimmed back as the boat turns down, and 
>> then tripped, the spin trimmer controls the kite with both sheets and there 
>> is no load on the new guy.  The mast man / foredeck should be able to drop 
>> the new guy into the jaw and push the pole out and make it on the mast 
>> without any real load on the pole via the guy.  The guy trimmer only trims 
>> back the new guy after the call of “Made” is heard from the foredeck, and 
>> then the spin trimmer eases the weather spin sheet as the new guy is brought 
>> in. 
>>  
>> And of course, the helmsman has to not turn up to the new course until that 
>> call as well…
>>  
>> All it takes is a lot of practice to get everyone on the same page…  ;) 
>>  
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
>> <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 3:04 PM
>> To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
>> Cc: Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com <mailto:capt...@gmail.com>>
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinnaker pole handling
>>  
>> Think about it like this, if the center seam on the bottom panel of the 
>> chute is directly ahead of the boat (centered on the forestay) it is easy to 
>> move the chute side to side to make the pole on either side.  If the center 
>> seam has prematurely crossed the forestay to the leeward side then the 
>> foredeck person has to push the sail back to windward to make the pole.
>> A simple light air practice exercise is to center the main, steer the boat 
>> keeping the Windex CENTERED between the tabs and then have the foredeck gybe 
>> the chute back and forth a few times.  Put a piece of tape on the center 
>> seam of the bottom panel to give a visible reference to the forestay.
>> When racing, if the foredeck can complete the gybe and have the pole made on 
>> the mast while the Windex is still well between the tabs, it should go 
>> smoothly.  The speed of the turn is controlled by the helmsperson!  Watch 
>> the center seam!
>>  
>> Dennis C.
>>  
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:30 PM, John McKay via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> Yikes, and I have been blaming it on the foredeck guys!
>>  
>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 12:09 PM, Paul Baker via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> As someone who does the pointy end on multiple racing boats, I fully concur. 
>> Almost all of the FUBAR kite moments are down to the ham-fisted monkey at 
>> the blunt end 
>> Cheers,
>> Paul.
>>  
>> 1974 27' MkII
>> Sidney, BC.
>>  
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