Thanks all for the info, I just added another item on the to do list for
the winter, fuel tank, hoses etc.
Hervey,
Ciothog
35-1

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> From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
> To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 08:49:28 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Height of C&c 40
> It is important to differentiate between the 1980's vintage of C&C 40 and
> the 1994/1995 C&C 40 which is the same series as the 37+, 37/40, 37R, and
> 37XL which started in 1989.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Sep 8, 2017 10:46 AM, "PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Does anyone know the height of a standard C&c 40 from keel to highest
>> point on cabin or pulpit  boat transporter needs to know
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Peter
>> C&c 40
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>
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> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 07:53:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Question about awlgrip hull pain
> There is also Awlcraft 2000 which is a "softer", more easily repaired
> version of Awlgrip.  I had Touche' painted with Awlcraft in 2011.  Still
> looks great.  Still getting compliments.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Awlgrip is the original paint which is beautiful because it has a color
>> and clear coat in the same application.  The color settles and the clear
>> comes to the surface.  This makes for the brilliant, long lasting shine.
>> The problem comes when repairs are required.  In order to repair a damaged
>> area the border between old and nem needs to be feathered in.  This creates
>> a halo around the damaged area and is caused by the separate layers of
>> clear and color.  The company insists that only their soap is formulated to
>> prevent damaging the finish.  They also insist that any amount of
>> polishing/buffing/sanding/or waxing will cause damage to the paint,
>> subsequently hold dirt and look dull.
>>
>> Awlgrip has come out with a newer product called Awlgrip 2000 and it
>> doesn't have the separate clear and color parts.  It isn't quite as
>> beautiful when new but it is easier to repair.  I'm not sure about
>> polishing.
>>
>> There is a second company which was recommended to me by a boat yard
>> called Alex Seal.  They said that it looks and works almost exactly like
>> Awlgrip 2000 but is cheaper.  They pointed to what looked like a new travel
>> lift and said they had rebuilt it 5 years ago and that it was a 20 year old
>> lift.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 08:54:02 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1
>
> Thanks Dennis...
> Bill Walker
>
>
>
>
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> From: PETER OCAMPO <bcwwka...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 08:55:17 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Height of C&c 40
> My bad
>
> 1983 7 ft keel. Aft cabin
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter
> C&c 40 1983
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 10, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> It is important to differentiate between the 1980's vintage of C&C 40 and
> the 1994/1995 C&C 40 which is the same series as the 37+, 37/40, 37R, and
> 37XL which started in 1989.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Sep 8, 2017 10:46 AM, "PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Does anyone know the height of a standard C&c 40 from keel to highest
>> point on cabin or pulpit  boat transporter needs to know
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Peter
>> C&c 40
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 09:03:20 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1
>
> I have replaced my fuel tank. It is pretty easy, it comes right out once
> you empty all the stuff out of the locker.
> WARNING:
>
> The original fuel tank in the MK I is ternplate and it WILL leak sooner or
> later.
>
> The original fill and vent hoses are NOT ethanol rated and will dissolve
> from the inside out, dropping rubber pieces into the tank.
>
> The 90 degree rubber elbow thing is NOT fuel rated and will come apart
> sooner or later. Mine spilt while fueling and dumped 5 gallons into the
> bilge. I got a new one fabricated from aluminum at my local welding shop.
>
> A C&C 35 MK I exploded and burned after refueling and I will bet anything
> it was the rubber elbow. I would have too if I hadn’t caught it with the
> blower.
>
> The supply hose is likewise not ethanol rated. If you still have copper
> line, that is no longer used, it eventually cracks.
>
> Really nothing but the filler should be original and I got a new cap for
> that because the old O-ring was not sealing.
>
>
>
> I think my tank now is this one – been awhile since I bought it.
>
> https://www.westmarine.com/buy/rds-manufacturing--below-
> deck-aluminum-fuel-tank-18ga--244485?recordNum=2
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> j...@dellabarba.com
>
>
>
> Coquina
>
> C&C 35 MK i
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis
> C. via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 10, 2017 8:47 AM
> *To:* CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Cc:* Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1
>
>
>
> I have a Plastimo (black) but would rather have a Moeller (translucent)
> because you can see the fuel level.  Not sure about your configuration but
> you should be able to find a close fit.
>
>
>
> http://moellermarine.com/product-category/fuel-containment/permanent-fuel-
> tanks/
>
>
>
> Determine which model best fits then go online shopping using the model
> number.
>
>
>
> Dennis C.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:40 AM, William Walker via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> All this talk about leaking tanks caused mine to spring a leak on
> Friday....really.
> Wish the access on my 36 was as good as others seem to have.  Espar
> furnace and refrigeration complicate things for me.
> Dennis, what tank do you recommend?  Good website for fitting install in
> plastic?  Or do the come ready to go?
> Bill Walker CnC 36
> Penteater, Mi
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> ------------------------------
>
> On Saturday, September 9, 2017 Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Like Neil says, removing the tank is not difficult.  Last time I pulled
> mine took less than an hour.  I needed to get to the strut bolts.
>
>
>
> The concern is the elbow on the fill hose.  If you damage it, replacement
> may be difficult.  Gates makes an elbow that can be cut to fit but you may
> need a coupling or nipple to make it work.
>
>
>
> If your fill hose is original, I STRONGLY suggest you replace it.  It is
> well past its useful life.
>
>
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hervey,
>
> Getting it out was not too difficult,  the tank fits out through the
> lazarette under the starboard seat.  My tank was held in place by two
> galvanized steel straps, corrosion from which caused the leak. Hardest part
> was undoing the fill and vent connections, had to get to them through the
> panel at the aft end of the port quarter berth.
>
> As someone mentioned in a recent post, getting the fill hose back on was a
> pain.  If I recall there's an elbow just off the tank connection, little
> bit of a struggle to make it tight.  I used fabric straps to hold the new
> plastic tank down.  My tank gauge has never worked so I just look through
> the wall of the tank to see the level.
>
>
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dave Godwin <dave.god...@me.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 10:39:26 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Question about awlgrip hull pain
> I used Awlcraft 2000 for the hull and the decks. I had already decided to
> use it after talking to the Alexseal rep (good stuff, same as Awlcraft
> 2000) and when conferring with my painter he said that that was they only
> shot Awlcraft on new builds and repairs. Another former professional
> painter from Zimmerman Marine preferred it.
>
> I’ve been able do some buffing of areas with a bit of orange peel.
> Repairability was tops on my list both because I was going to be doing the
> painting and because I run into things. Often...
>
> As far as it not being as “beautiful” as Awlgrip, well, I’m fairly certain
> that no-one can tell the difference between well-done Awlcraft and Awlgrip.
> Maybe a professional.
>
> Best,
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin’s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/>
>
> On Sep 10, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> There is also Awlcraft 2000 which is a "softer", more easily repaired
> version of Awlgrip.  I had Touche' painted with Awlcraft in 2011.  Still
> looks great.  Still getting compliments.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Awlgrip is the original paint which is beautiful because it has a color
>> and clear coat in the same application.  The color settles and the clear
>> comes to the surface.  This makes for the brilliant, long lasting shine.
>> The problem comes when repairs are required.  In order to repair a damaged
>> area the border between old and nem needs to be feathered in.  This creates
>> a halo around the damaged area and is caused by the separate layers of
>> clear and color.  The company insists that only their soap is formulated to
>> prevent damaging the finish.  They also insist that any amount of
>> polishing/buffing/sanding/or waxing will cause damage to the paint,
>> subsequently hold dirt and look dull.
>>
>> Awlgrip has come out with a newer product called Awlgrip 2000 and it
>> doesn't have the separate clear and color parts.  It isn't quite as
>> beautiful when new but it is easier to repair.  I'm not sure about
>> polishing.
>>
>> There is a second company which was recommended to me by a boat yard
>> called Alex Seal.  They said that it looks and works almost exactly like
>> Awlgrip 2000 but is cheaper.  They pointed to what looked like a new travel
>> lift and said they had rebuilt it 5 years ago and that it was a 20 year old
>> lift.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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